sure but your taking neilson and his contact back

Or just keep Babcock and convince nick lidstrom to come out of retirement

That's a big part of the problem right there. Babcock's success has come with the Canadian Olympic Team and a stacked Detroit team. If that's the quality of a roster he needs to win then the leafs aren't winning anything in a cap world and with Babcock at the helm.

That's a big part of the problem right there. Babcock's success has come with the Canadian Olympic Team and a stacked Detroit team. If that's the quality of a roster he needs to win then the leafs aren't winning anything in a cap world and with Babcock at the helm.

I agree - ive always believed Babcock is overrated. I don't know what's taking so long to fire him.

But that was also when you could have 2 checking lines and win.

I think its probably getting close. My guess is that there could be some internal politics going on and a general desire that the situation will resolve itself so they can avoid all the media headaches that go with sacking Babcock. I doubt they can dodge that bullet much longer

He’s such an a**hole. I don’t get how he went from playing Marceau like he’s a 1st line caliber winger in the playoffs to scratching spezza for the home opener after he bought tickets for his family

Lol.

I do think though that with Babcock gone alot of the leafs problems start to get solved.

Yeah, I think that's generally fair that it's easy to blame the coach. But not in this case. Babcock comes with all sorts of credentials and he was a big part of what fast tracked the team after they tanked. And mighta been the perfect coach for the first couple of years. But it's gotten pretty obvious that he's a big part of the problem right now. And credentials or not, he's not putting up the results , hasn't since about this time last year, and their regressing this year. He'd be a tough guy to fire just on optics alone but it seems like his time is pretty close.

I'd say the last thing this group needs is someone to massage their egos. That ego thing is also a big part of the problem, imo. But it might not hurt to have a new guy saying they need to be checked at the door. That should include the coach too.

You could be right with the roster construction. But I'd say it's almost impossible to really get a sense of what this team is with Babcock at the helm. I think the difference in how Dubas and Babcock envision a hockey club is another big part of the problem. Usually a coach goes before the GM. If the next guy doesn't get any better results than Babs then Dubas's vision, roster construction and cap structure are all going to increasingly come into question.