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Hall Trade

Créé par: Moore9
Équipe: 2019-20 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 4 nov. 2019
Publié: 5 nov. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NJD
  1. Kaut, Martin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Second Becomes a First if Hall Resigns before July 1st
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $75 409 761 $0 $3 532 500 $6 090 239 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
885 833 $885 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
735 000 $735 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 975 000 $1 975 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $
C
RFA - 1

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5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 38
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This offer would likely be bested by another contending team
5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 39
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Quoting: Barbs
This offer would likely be bested by another contending team


But they're isn't that many teams that can take the cap for hall
5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 40
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But they're isn't that many teams that can take the cap for hall


For a boat-load of assets I'm sure NJ would retain or take back an expiring deal
5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 42
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For a boat-load of assets I'm sure NJ would retain or take back an expiring deal


If another team offers more Colorado has more to offer. They could throw Shane Bowers or Conor Timmons in this trade as well.
5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 50
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it's not enough. NJD will look for at least :

-1st pick
-prospect
-condition if hall resign

and i think theyll ask for a depth player too.

I think an offer would look like :

2020 1st pick
Bowers/Kaut/Timmins (any of them)
conditional 1st if Hall re signs
Nichushkin/Greer/something like that

Look at Duchene trade
5 nov. 2019 à 9 h 57
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Quoting: KCarry74
it's not enough. NJD will look for at least :

-1st pick
-prospect
-condition if hall resign

and i think theyll ask for a depth player too.

I think an offer would look like :

2020 1st pick
Bowers/Kaut/Timmins (any of them)
conditional 1st if Hall re signs
Nichushkin/Greer/something like that

Look at Duchene trade


Kaut has a way higher ceiling than Abramov. Sure they can throw in someone who will never play an NHL game if you want. As well Colorado could go first this year second next year with the same conditions
5 nov. 2019 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: KCarry74
it's not enough. NJD will look for at least :

-1st pick
-prospect
-condition if hall resign

and i think theyll ask for a depth player too.

I think an offer would look like :

2020 1st pick
Bowers/Kaut/Timmins (any of them)
conditional 1st if Hall re signs
Nichushkin/Greer/something like that

Look at Duchene trade


more like the Mark Stone cauz I think Ray Shero would want max return for a player who wants out of New Jersey. (Same scenario as Stone @ TDL) Both are at the same age (from the 2010 draft) and they close in terms of skill. (Yeah I get the point that Hall won the Hart but his injury record makes him close to Stone's value)
5 nov. 2019 à 10 h 20
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Im the biggest avs Stan on the internet and I can admit that this probably doesnt even get you Palmieri, never mind Hall
5 nov. 2019 à 10 h 22
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Im the biggest avs Stan on the internet and I can admit that this probably doesnt even get you Palmieri, never mind Hall


How so?
5 nov. 2019 à 10 h 27
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How so?


kaut isnt a big enough of a prospect to get you Hall, Avs would have give up Byram if they want Hall extended
5 nov. 2019 à 10 h 31
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kaut isnt a big enough of a prospect to get you Hall, Avs would have give up Byram if they want Hall extended


For hall as a rental give up a future top pairing guy? Never gonna happen. no one will give up A guy like Bowen for someone who might only play 20-30 games for your franchise.
5 nov. 2019 à 11 h 8
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For hall as a rental give up a future top pairing guy? Never gonna happen. no one will give up A guy like Bowen for someone who might only play 20-30 games for your franchise.


Thats why I said for an extended Hall,

And you arent going to get Hall as a rental for a package that is arguable less than what the Rangers got for Hayes last year, who was a pure rental
5 nov. 2019 à 11 h 12
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Thats why I said for an extended Hall,

And you arent going to get Hall as a rental for a package that is arguable less than what the Rangers got for Hayes last year, who was a pure rental


Thats why there's a conditional first if he resigns. Hall for three firsts basically.
5 nov. 2019 à 11 h 31
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Thats why there's a conditional first if he resigns. Hall for three firsts basically.


You have kaut and a 2nd turning into a 1st if he resigns, thats 2 assets, not 3 and Kaut and a 1st for an extended Hall would be high way robbery.
Mark Stone who was traded for and extended is your barometer of a trade. The precedent is out there
5 nov. 2019 à 11 h 35
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You have kaut and a 2nd turning into a 1st if he resigns, thats 2 assets, not 3 and Kaut and a 1st for an extended Hall would be high way robbery.
Mark Stone who was traded for and extended is your barometer of a trade. The precedent is out there


Never said it was a sign-and-trade. If hall choses to resign then that's a bonus.
5 nov. 2019 à 12 h 46
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Never said it was a sign-and-trade. If hall choses to resign then that's a bonus.


Devils are going to allow for teams to talk extension with him, thats how they will maximize their return. Players of his caliber dont go on the market as pure rentals
 
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