That's a pretty good trade. It's just a matter of if Carolina is willing to part ways with Pesce. He's very good

EDIT- Trade definitely favors Carolina more on paper but I think in real life, Carolina's office would have to have serious talks if they want to do this

Rather buy out Palat and keep Sergachev. You all are sleeping on him so ****ing much hahaha

Pesce is great and cost controlled, but I'd take my chances on Sergy

But, in the end I agree: if we gotta part ways with Sergachev in order to get rid of 5.3M dead weight and getting a great cost controlled Dman... I may agree and ultimately be happy with this trade.
It's just that trading Serg now we'd sell him so much lower than what he'll become, which drives me nuts hahaha

If Palat is willing to waive, we can pretty easily move him without having to give anything up, I should think. He's not great at $5.3m, but he's still a top-six winger with a lot of bounce-back potential. I would like to have Pesce, of course, but moving Sergachev for Pesce hurts our cap situation. Sergachev is younger and has looked solid so far and could turn out to be better than Pesce in a little while. However, the key thing that Sergachev has going for him is that he's cap controlled. He's on an ELC right now, and hasn't done anything to warrant even Pesce's AAV in the future. I don't hate this idea, but I don't think we have the cap room to try it.

imma be real with you chief, that Pesce trade is some mental illness stuff

Don't be rude dude, he just doesn't know how well Sergachev plays. He is super high value for 2019/2020 season = 100% stays, it's simple as that.
And yes, Palat has NTC, so not movable. If he is movable or anyone wanted to trade him from Tampa, he would be with other team right now.
And yeah, Pesce kinda untouchable, it seems right now.Unless somebody offers some crazy value. But it doesn't include Sergachev, thats for sure ...



Zwui21, i appreciate your posts and i like them in general, but this "your hate towards Palat" became your obsession.
Similar to Boltlover hating Stamkos.
I respect your opinion, but can you be more realistic, and give those guys some other chance, until they have those big'ish contracts, which kinda unmovable? Why hate when next year Stammer can hit 80 points again easily and Palat can hit 50+ points even more easily. If Palat earns under 25 points next year. He is out i agree. But thats just not the reality for now...

BriseBois not adding grit, just deal with it. When we see a guy with grit signed, traded, then we will know he wants to add grit. Until then, he wants the same thing rolling, as last years, which is not playoff hockey i know, but it is what it is. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. Thats why we'll watch the games

We are not buying out anybody, it's really bad for any team to buyout, its just last resort. (check out Shattenkirk for next year,it litereally destroys NYR in 2020/2021)
This year = we are ready = no cap problems = no buyouts= capisci? Next year, we just don't know how anybody will play, so no point talking about "buyouts"... Palat is way off from buyout material. If he was 37, i would say i understand you, but he is under 30 bro...
So just chill and enjoy Palat play next season, and fingers crossed for no injuries.
I would say next season = huge fight for Johnson,Gourde,Palat,Killorn = who plays best stays, who doesn't leave. Our GM will solve it. So i expect all of those guys have a good season.
We might sell Joseph btw, if he doesn't improve next year. So yes, we'll be in cap hell, but it's solvable, otherwise we wouldn't signed Vasi for almost 10mill!
BriseBois must have a good plan to deal with those upcoming contracts. Have faith in him. I like him from the interviews a lot in last week! It seems , he is smart, so im happy we got him after Yzerman.

Go Boltz!

Oh bud I agree with you 100%! I wouldn't say that I despise Palat, I really really liked him prior to this season. Mine it's not really hate, it's just the fact that I see him as the guy that would solve most of our problems if he would be shipped away. The wa I see it, mine is just a prioritizing what would be more important to this team going forward: if Palat's contract would be in the way of re-signing one of Cirelli, Cernak and Sergachev next offseason, you can bet I'd do whatever we can in order to re-sign our RFA. I took it to the extreme, but yeah if I had to choose between, let's say, Cernak and Palat I wouldn't have any second guesses in choosing that awesome Slovak. The buyout would be the last resort if we are unable to have one of the 5M guys to waive their NTC.

Then again, I really hope that Palat can come back next season to be the 15+ goals, 35+ assists. But if he won't, I'll try to move him before his value hits rock bottom, as those 5.3M can be a dead weight if he's producing and playing how he did this season.

I agree on what you say about JBB knowing what he's doing. I'm fully confident in him, if we re.signed Vas to 9.5 it's because next offseason his pricetag would have been higher. The guy knows what he's doing.
And personally, depending on when we'll ink Point, I wouldn't be surprised to see him re-sign one of Cernak/Sergachev/Cirelli prior to the start of this season.

Nice, then we agree afterall! Glad you still have a super-tiny faith in Ondrej.

Anyways, i was just thinking today who is my current favorite player right now, before season starts, because u know it can change any year...
Maybe some fans favorite for years was Palat, after this season they definetely will choose somebody else. Haha
So thats the interesting part, i dont like to pick the superstars, cause u know they are superstars, whats not to like in them Thats why they make the BIG money
So i realized last year i was really happy when i watched Cirelli on every shift, couldn't say any bad words towards him, even after we lost. When he scored goals, or did something good, it was similar to what Brayden Point did little earlier in his career. He was my favourite until now...
Before Point, my fav was Kuuuuuch......... So here we go.

My favourite new player for next season: Anthony Cirelli

So yeah, from now i eagerly waiting for a resign announcement on Cirelli. I hope we don't overpay him though. As much as i like him, the team's interest is more important than a particular player's paycheck. I really hope it will be around ~ 3 mill for lots of years... Like Kapanen, Johnson for TML.

Same thing i hope for Pointerz, that he takes less money than market value for the team = under 8 mill, hopefully it's even lower than 7.5mill, so next year we have less cap troubles.
I mean if we sign him for 9 mill+ , i wont cry, because he is that good, but still won't be super happy about it...

I really hope this Vasi signing is just a one trick pony, to secure our future at goaltending position. Cause u know its hard to find the perfect goalie for any team... Look all the other teams, who doesnt have a really good goalie, they try multiple goalies every 2nd year, if they have a bad season. I fully expect Vasi to even improve, and never have a bad season for the full contract.
Unless the whole D let him down for a full year.But then it's not his fault, u know.
I was a little upset by this huge number for Vasi, but then i thought about for couple hours that why we signed him for that much out of nowhere(from interviews even Vasi was surprised that he got that much money), and i figured it out i think: It's because of the new TV deal in a few years: So first 2-3 years or smth like that it will be a bad-mediocre contract, but after that it will be amazing, and everybody will be saying: Vasi = super good contract. It hurts in the short run, but NHL teams all about the long run. Every contract on long run = best possible , than you have every year a chance to be the champs, or at least make the playoffs and not lose 1st round 0-4... LOL

And yes, you are right: We need to keep Sergachev.
Yesterday i looked into his stats deeply , and he was better than i imagined, its just they didnt work well with Hedman together = it was bad synergy, but its fixable or we never play him with Hedman. They have pretty good stats numbers with Coburn(but thats 3rd pairing, so it doesnt mean that much).
Top priority = keep opponents 1st line + hopefully 2nd from scoring on any shift. 3rd+4th line on lots of teams not that good skill-level wise.
So its also a top priority to resign Serg to an acceptable contract, i was thinking around a 3 mill short term, max 3 years deal, until we sort out other players, then we can pay more money to him. If we pay him lets say 5 mill, i think we are like done capwise... unless we move idk like McDonagh or Stamkos with big contracts.
So i think Sergachev is a must keep, and he is RFA so i don't think we will have much trouble keeping him... I don't think he sitouts like Nylander for Toronto u know... And yes, BriseBois better do this contract sooner, than mid december, cause Sergachev might have a breakout year this season. And that would mean 5 mill+ guranteed... We are just out of cap space next season for a contract like that...


Oh yeah , and also interesting fact i found in stats today, which i never thought its true, but the eye test kinda showed it.
So, i started couple of months ago looking at various stats sites.CF% things like that... This will blow your mind:
Cernak > McDonagh in last season. With a huge margin. So McDonagh coached him so well that he instantly become a better player, than a little regressing McDonagh. ( i guess thats what NYR saw in him, that he won't be better anymore, so thats why they traded him to us).
Since McDonagh new contract just starting, thats not good news for us, cause its 7 years lol. McDonagh at 37 years of age = that will be bad... ouch... please Ryan.. dont be the next Girardi in 3-4 years...

This fact alone made me think that Hedman-Cernak next season as 1st pairing D = not out of the realm of possiblities.
I never thought about this pairing so far. But it could work vs opposing teams Top lines if we cant find the right teammate for Hedman.
So this brings us to another point, which is:
We should also resign Cernak really early into the season for multiple years, before his agents see in him again 5mill+ value. So around ~ 4 million $$$ @ 7 years should be a good contract the whole way. Lock him up for long-term for respectable value.

So 2019/2020 season Defense could be:
Hedman-Cernak
McDonagh-Sergachev
Coburn-Schenn

This 3 Pairings could work, but it would mean we break up the super well working McDonagh-Cernak pairings, which maybe could be a mistake...but...
Eye test showed last year this pair = good. Plus-Minus = crazy
Advanced Stats i will show you later, it shows different results.

But the adv-stats clearly shows our D rankings last year(i excluded non-rosters players, who left the team):
1.Hedman
2.Sergachev
3.Coburn
4.Cernak
5.McDonagh

Yes, Serg+Cob played vs weaker players so u can swap them, so final rankings:
1. Hedman
2.Cernak
3.McDonagh
4.Sergachev
5.Coburn
6.???Schenn/Rutta???

You see, this could work,because:
Hedman-Cernak worked really well: 55.08 CF%
McDonagh+Sergachev also played really well together from the stats:55.56 CF%
Coburn-Schenn:???

For example it looks like from stats McDonagh-Cernak pair = overachieved = 50.68 CF%, which is not spectacular, so maybe it worth to break them up, and go with different pairings. It will be really interesting to see what kind of pairings Cooper will try in the regular season. From what i can see, our D will be stronger next year. If one of Schenn/Rutta works well. ( or Foote )


Let the season start already!

Go !