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24 juill. 2019 à 14 h 51
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Gusev wants 4x2. He will not sign for less than that, stop making AGM pretending he's gonna
24 juill. 2019 à 14 h 53
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Salary dump like Reaves might take a bit more. Especially since teams know the Knights are tight on the cap.
24 juill. 2019 à 15 h 0
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Gusev wants 4x2. He will not sign for less than that, stop making AGM pretending he's gonna


Nobody ever asks for exactly what they'll accept. Always a little higher. Negotiation can and more times than not bring down the cap hit they originally were asking for. Its not like Gusev has a ton of options. If he did than he could stand pat at 4M until someone finally signs him. He doesn't. Its Vegas or KHL.

I get what you mean but its not like OP offered 1.5M for 4 years. Its pretty close and very much a possibility man. I think your overreacting for nothing.
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24 juill. 2019 à 15 h 11
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Nobody ever asks for exactly what they'll accept. Always a little higher. Negotiation can and more times than not bring down the cap hit they originally were asking for. Its not like Gusev has a ton of options. If he did than he could stand pat at 4M until someone finally signs him. He doesn't. Its Vegas or KHL.

I get what you mean but its not like OP offered 1.5M for 4 years. Its pretty close and very much a possibility man. I think your overreacting for nothing.


I'm very calm to be fair, we're discussing hockey is not a metter of life and death, lol.
He's russian, they never accept less money, they always got what they ask or they go home. If he stays in Vegas is gonna be for the money he wants, I have no doubt about it
24 juill. 2019 à 15 h 51
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I'm very calm to be fair, we're discussing hockey is not a metter of life and death, lol.
He's russian, they never accept less money, they always got what they ask or they go home. If he stays in Vegas is gonna be for the money he wants, I have no doubt about it


"He will not sign for less than that, stop making AGM pretending he's gonna" - I'm being calm..... rolling eyes

But what other stereotypes can we add to make your assessment valid? (In strong russian accent) He and Mcphee will drink Wodka till 3 in the morning, Gusev will have russian Bear force him to agree to 4M meelions for 2 years.... laugh
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24 juill. 2019 à 16 h 13
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"He will not sign for less than that, stop making AGM pretending he's gonna" - I'm being calm..... rolling eyes

But what other stereotypes can we add to make your assessment valid? (In strong russian accent) He and Mcphee will drink Wodka till 3 in the morning, Gusev will have russian Bear force him to agree to 4M meelions for 2 years.... laugh


Is not wrong being attached to money, if they are is not that problem or a stereotype, is just that they are asking what they are worth, as it should be
24 juill. 2019 à 16 h 26
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Is not wrong being attached to money, if they are is not that problem or a stereotype, is just that they are asking what they are worth, as it should be


And every Russian whose ever lived has never taken less than their initial offer???? Come on man....

Gm's job is to negotiate with the agent and eventually both sides make concessions. The better player is and the more options he has the better the odds he has of making what he wants. Gusev has to accept Vegas or he may not play in the NHL this year... which was his goal from the start. He could have stayed in Russia and got paid his 4M if he wanted to.
24 juill. 2019 à 16 h 37
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And every Russian whose ever lived has never taken less than their initial offer???? Come on man....

Gm's job is to negotiate with the agent and eventually both sides make concessions. The better player is and the more options he has the better the odds he has of making what he wants. Gusev has to accept Vegas or he may not play in the NHL this year... which was his goal from the start. He could have stayed in Russia and got paid his 4M if he wanted to.


His agent said that if they don't find the right deal by the deadline day they decided he will go back to SKA.

https://www.tsn.ca/agent-vegas-golden-knights-f-nikita-gusev-could-look-into-khl-return-1.1340494
24 juill. 2019 à 16 h 47
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His agent said that if they don't find the right deal by the deadline day they decided he will go back to SKA.

https://www.tsn.ca/agent-vegas-golden-knights-f-nikita-gusev-could-look-into-khl-return-1.1340494


Its doesn't say if he doesn't get 4M. It say if he does not receive a contract or a trade by an undisclosed date.


What would an agent say otherwise? "We'll only take 4M but if they sweet talk us a little we will eventually drop to 3M?????". By doing that they lose all negotiating power.

Agents use the media to improve negotiation power all the time. These are tactics and literally every agent does this.

Could he actually go back to Russia? Of course. Could he also be saying all this to get a deal closer to his asking price out of Vegas or any other team that trades for him? Dang straight.

In this same article it says McPhee has only offered 2M. We don't know what Gusev would do if he was offered 3M which is right between what he and Vegas offered. Pretyy decent compromise.
24 juill. 2019 à 17 h 36
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Quoting: Fel93
Is not wrong being attached to money, if they are is not that problem or a stereotype, is just that they are asking what they are worth, as it should be


Asking and not settling for anything less is how negotiations do not work.
They will settle for a number between 2-4m, that is the nature of negotiations
 
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