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Backes Zucker and bye Vatanen

Créé par: TheNewAge
Équipe: 2019-20 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2019
Publié: 17 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 800 000 $
33 000 000 $
21 300 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Backes, David
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Based on the Marleau trade, since Backes has an extra year left, needs to be more than a first.
BOS
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
2.
MIN
  1. Jacobs, Josh
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
3.
NJD
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
The Second turns into a first if Tampa wins two playoff rounds or if Vatanen resigns.
TBL
  1. Vatanen, Sami
Détails additionnels:
Replacement for Stralman, retained 50% to help him fit into Tampas cap.
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2022
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
749 167 $749 167 $ (Bonis de performance42 500 $$42K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 4
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697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
675 000 $675 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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17 juill. 2019 à 18 h 47
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Dude, what are you, a Tampa fan?
17 juill. 2019 à 19 h 2
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Dude, what are you, a Tampa fan?


Lmao the trade is fair
18 juill. 2019 à 13 h 11
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Lmao the trade is fair


Trading a top 4 dman, who the Devils can greatly use, for a bunch of picks who have a significantly higher chance of playing in the AHL than the NHL, is not a fair trade. Especially if the Devils are retaining 50% of Vatanen's salary. Ray Shero and the Devils are in the business of trying to win the Stanley Cup, not trying to help others win it.

However, it is unfair to place the blame of this horrendous trade entirely on you. According to your profile, you are Leafs fan, so it makes sense why you don't really understand how hockey works. So just go back to your dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda and let the rest of us educated hockey fans discuss this beautiful sport.
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Quoting: tesau315
Trading a top 4 dman, who the Devils can greatly use, for a bunch of picks who have a significantly higher chance of playing in the AHL than the NHL, is not a fair trade. Especially if the Devils are retaining 50% of Vatanen's salary. Ray Shero and the Devils are in the business of trying to win the Stanley Cup, not trying to help others win it.

However, it is unfair to place the blame of this horrendous trade entirely on you. According to your profile, you are Leafs fan, so it makes sense why you don't really understand how hockey works. So just go back to your dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda and let the rest of us educated hockey fans discuss this beautiful sport.


Lol be nice
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18 juill. 2019 à 16 h 40
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Trading a top 4 dman, who the Devils can greatly use, for a bunch of picks who have a significantly higher chance of playing in the AHL than the NHL, is not a fair trade. Especially if the Devils are retaining 50% of Vatanen's salary. Ray Shero and the Devils are in the business of trying to win the Stanley Cup, not trying to help others win it.

However, it is unfair to place the blame of this horrendous trade entirely on you. According to your profile, you are Leafs fan, so it makes sense why you don't really understand how hockey works. So just go back to your dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda and let the rest of us educated hockey fans discuss this beautiful sport.


Yeah this is a great example of my Leafs propaganda ??
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Quoting: tesau315
Trading a top 4 dman, who the Devils can greatly use, for a bunch of picks who have a significantly higher chance of playing in the AHL than the NHL, is not a fair trade. Especially if the Devils are retaining 50% of Vatanen's salary. Ray Shero and the Devils are in the business of trying to win the Stanley Cup, not trying to help others win it.

However, it is unfair to place the blame of this horrendous trade entirely on you. According to your profile, you are Leafs fan, so it makes sense why you don't really understand how hockey works. So just go back to your dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda and let the rest of us educated hockey fans discuss this beautiful sport.


Okay so since you wanna attack me based on the Vatanen trade, heres my reasoning: https://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2018/10/31/18043532/analytics-say-sami-vatanen-is-likely-not-the-devils-best-defender-ft-interview-with-evolvingwild
Take off your homer glasses, this trade is not horrendous. You're a fan overvaluing your player, perhaps because of who you gave up to get him. Sami Vatanen is an average defenceman, the fact I'm giving the Devils a chance at the first itself seems crazy to me. Here a few trade comparables of defenceman much better than Sami Vatanen getting hauls you'd think they'd get more for: Jacob Trouba for Neal Pionk and the 20th overall pick, Tyson Barrie AND Alexander Kerfoot for Nazem Kadri and Calle Rosen, ERIK Karlsson for Chris Tierney, Dylan DeMelo, prospects Josh Norris and Rudolfs Balcers, a 2020 first and I believe it was a second. The Sens got this after supposedly asking for Cody Glass JUST 6 months prior. These are elite RHD going for much less than you'd think. Oh yeah: Colin Miller for a second and sixth just a few weeks ago. RHD simply aren't as valuable as they were a few years ago thus Vatanens value isn't as high as you think it is.

Now, like Vatanen all these defenceman have/had 1 year remaining on their contract except for Trouba (Whos a RFA which means hes controllable for the forseeable future which means he shouldve gotten more) and Colin MIller (you'd think he'd get more just for the fact hes got a great contract and has term)

Thanks for reading, now I'll go back to my "dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda" and clearly let you speak because you are sooooooo educated. Not.
18 juill. 2019 à 17 h 58
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Okay so since you wanna attack me based on the Vatanen trade, heres my reasoning: https://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2018/10/31/18043532/analytics-say-sami-vatanen-is-likely-not-the-devils-best-defender-ft-interview-with-evolvingwild
Take off your homer glasses, this trade is not horrendous. You're a fan overvaluing your player, perhaps because of who you gave up to get him. Sami Vatanen is an average defenceman, the fact I'm giving the Devils a chance at the first itself seems crazy to me. Here a few trade comparables of defenceman much better than Sami Vatanen getting hauls you'd think they'd get more for: Jacob Trouba for Neal Pionk and the 20th overall pick, Tyson Barrie AND Alexander Kerfoot for Nazem Kadri and Calle Rosen, ERIK Karlsson for Chris Tierney, Dylan DeMelo, prospects Josh Norris and Rudolfs Balcers, a 2020 first and I believe it was a second. The Sens got this after supposedly asking for Cody Glass JUST 6 months prior. These are elite RHD going for much less than you'd think. Oh yeah: Colin Miller for a second and sixth just a few weeks ago. RHD simply aren't as valuable as they were a few years ago thus Vatanens value isn't as high as you think it is.

Now, like Vatanen all these defenceman have/had 1 year remaining on their contract except for Trouba (Whos a RFA which means hes controllable for the forseeable future which means he shouldve gotten more) and Colin MIller (you'd think he'd get more just for the fact hes got a great contract and has term)

Thanks for reading, now I'll go back to my "dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda" and clearly let you speak because you are sooooooo educated. Not.


Quoting: TheNewAge
Okay so since you wanna attack me based on the Vatanen trade, heres my reasoning: https://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2018/10/31/18043532/analytics-say-sami-vatanen-is-likely-not-the-devils-best-defender-ft-interview-with-evolvingwild
Take off your homer glasses, this trade is not horrendous. You're a fan overvaluing your player, perhaps because of who you gave up to get him. Sami Vatanen is an average defenceman, the fact I'm giving the Devils a chance at the first itself seems crazy to me. Here a few trade comparables of defenceman much better than Sami Vatanen getting hauls you'd think they'd get more for: Jacob Trouba for Neal Pionk and the 20th overall pick, Tyson Barrie AND Alexander Kerfoot for Nazem Kadri and Calle Rosen, ERIK Karlsson for Chris Tierney, Dylan DeMelo, prospects Josh Norris and Rudolfs Balcers, a 2020 first and I believe it was a second. The Sens got this after supposedly asking for Cody Glass JUST 6 months prior. These are elite RHD going for much less than you'd think. Oh yeah: Colin Miller for a second and sixth just a few weeks ago. RHD simply aren't as valuable as they were a few years ago thus Vatanens value isn't as high as you think it is.

Now, like Vatanen all these defenceman have/had 1 year remaining on their contract except for Trouba (Whos a RFA which means hes controllable for the forseeable future which means he shouldve gotten more) and Colin MIller (you'd think he'd get more just for the fact hes got a great contract and has term)

Thanks for reading, now I'll go back to my "dark, disillusioned corner full of Leaf's propaganda" and clearly let you speak because you are sooooooo educated. Not.


I'm not overvaluing Vatanen. I understand his analytics show that he isn't as great as a lot of Devils fans believe he is. What I am saying is that this is an unfair trade. Vatanen is worth more to the Devils right now than future picks are. So it would be more beneficial for the Devils to just keep Vatanen and use him in a 2nd pairing role behind Subban, than trade him for players who honestly won't really have a shot at making the NHL.

But I stand by what I say about you being a Leafs fan. They are just a little bit worse than Oilers fans.
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I'm not overvaluing Vatanen. I understand his analytics show that he isn't as great as a lot of Devils fans believe he is. What I am saying is that this is an unfair trade. Vatanen is worth more to the Devils right now than future picks are. So it would be more beneficial for the Devils to just keep Vatanen and use him in a 2nd pairing role behind Subban, than trade him for players who honestly won't really have a shot at making the NHL.

But I stand by what I say about you being a Leafs fan. They are just a little bit worse than Oilers fans.


Quoting: tesau315
I'm not overvaluing Vatanen. I understand his analytics show that he isn't as great as a lot of Devils fans believe he is. What I am saying is that this is an unfair trade. Vatanen is worth more to the Devils right now than future picks are. So it would be more beneficial for the Devils to just keep Vatanen and use him in a 2nd pairing role behind Subban, than trade him for players who honestly won't really have a shot at making the NHL.

But I stand by what I say about you being a Leafs fan. They are just a little bit worse than Oilers fans.


Looks like I was being really generous with that trade, you're quite the deluded Devils fan who obviously has no idea how the NHL works. Your GM traded Hall, Palmieri, Greene, Vatanen for picks. 😂😂😂😂so much for being in the biz for winning the stanley cup. Pathetic.
 
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