Detroit declines. Lavoie isnt that good, he went in the 2nd round for a reason, had an okay season, and scored a lot of goals in the playoffs from one spot on the ice. Hes not the level of prospect it would take to get Mantha. That 2021 first round pick wont have an impact for like 6 years from now, if at all

Yeah makes sense. Where is detroit at right now?, looks like you guys have some really good young talent and then a bunch of old foggies on their way down hill. Full rebuild coming or on the fly..

Wings are right in the middle of the rebuild id say, going to be turn the corner, we have a good core starting to form, I think will have a chance to contend for a playoff spot in 20-21, depending on what Yzerman does and how young players develop

I agree and I think Detroit makes the playoffs in 2020-21 but will still a few years from competing for a cup.

If Veleno can become a legit 2C behind Larkin in the next 2-3 years(probably start out at 3C), that will really speed this up. I think Seider will play NHL in 20-21, so you got Hronek, Seider on that right side and if a guy like Kaski could come in and surprise people, that would help a ton. Our left side needs help. For some reason im not really sold that Cholowski is even gonna be a top 4 yet, i hope he come in a proves me wrong. McIsaac is at least 2-3 years away from playing a full NHL season. I guess after another top ten draft pick and some extra picks we get at the deadline, things will look even better.

Wings say no

Yeah Wings aren't dealing Mantha, For a lesser piece.