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Subban trade, Okposo & Datsyuk contract

Créé par: bgc
Équipe: 2016-17 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2016
Publié: 20 juin 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
> Relieves Montreal from generous contracts to Eller and Desharnais. Return isn't great but what can you do.

> Takes all-star player Subban to rumored destination Edmonton, gaining a future to-be D-man in Klefbom and the big C Montreal has wait for a long time. Reunites Galchenyuk & Yakupov. Youngsters De La Rose & Hudon in the mix.

> Okposo signed big $ for 5 years

> Emelin bought out

> 1st pick gained in Datsyuk contract trade gets J.Gauthier, local kid. Montreal gets M.Sergachev with their 9th overall pick.

> I like the fact that both top lines are highly offensive and that 3rd brings lot of defense. 4th is energy. Team is still pretty fast.

> Around 11 M$ left at the end or the year, enough margin for Galchenyuk, Beaulieu signings.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
56 500 000 $
31 800 000 $
2750 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail
3700 000 $
Gauthier, Julien
3700 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
    2017 4th round pick
    2.
    MTL
    1. Datsyuk, Pavel
    Détails additionnels:
    2017 1st round pick (16th overall)
    3.
    MTL
      2018 2nd round pick
      4.
      Rachats de contrats
      Enfoui
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2271 400 000 $65 650 333 $0 $2 475 000 $5 749 667 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 3
      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 475 000 $$2M)
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 5
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 1
      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 7
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
      950 000 $950 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      G
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 2
      4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 7
      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      575 000 $575 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      750 000 $750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      750 000 $750 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1

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      21 juin 2016 à 0 h 7
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      The only trade in my opinion that might be plausible is the Eller one. The rest are either never happening or the other team probably won't accept.
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      The only trade in my opinion that might be plausible is the Eller one. The rest are either never happening or the other team probably won't accept.


      Chicago just had to surrender a 21-year-old high-end prospect to convince Carolina to take Bryan Bickell's contract. I don't see how Detroit's trade isn't plausible, as Holland is shopping hard Datsyuk contract to land Stamkos.

      Desharnais for a 4th not plausible? Come on. 3,5M$ isn't much and Desharnais is a 50 pt per season guy. Wouldn't spit on that if I'm Arizona.
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      Also I don't think Edmonton is unrealistic, whether it happens or not in real life. I think the value of Subban deserves at least Draisaitl and Klefbom. As for Yakupov, he's been a deception right from the beginning. For De La Rose, young reponsible 2way forward, Hudon, 28 goals in AHL 15-16 and a 3rd pick from 2016, I don't see what Chiarelli would lose.
      21 juin 2016 à 13 h 23
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      Quoting: F50marco
      The only trade in my opinion that might be plausible is the Eller one. The rest are either never happening or the other team probably won't accept.


      Chicago just had to surrender a 21-year-old high-end prospect to convince Carolina to take Bryan Bickell's contract. I don't see how Detroit's trade isn't plausible, as Holland is shopping hard Datsyuk contract to land Stamkos.

      Desharnais for a 4th not plausible? Come on. 3,5M$ isn't much and Desharnais is a 50 pt per season guy. Wouldn't spit on that if I'm Arizona.



      There is a big difference with Datsyuk's contract and Bickell's. Actual physical money being paid to the player.

      The team getting Datsyuk doesn't have to actually pay any actual money to Datsyuk because he is walking away from his last year of his contract by his own accord. All they have to do is make sure they are within the salary cap because his cap hit will remain regardless of what happens but no money is being paid. I've looked this over like crazy and the smartest option is with Arizona. They purposefully don't spend up to the cap every year because of ownership spending constrictions. A Datsyuk for Pronger scenario makes the most sense without having to lose anything on both teams. Arizona gets a higher cap to reach the floor and doesn't have to pay Datsyuk any money in the process. It affects them badly in no way at all since they wouldn't need that extra space on the cap anyway because they wouldn't spend that much money even if they wanted to. The crux of it for them is that they wouldn't have to pay 575K of Prongers salary anymore which is actual money being paid out and the added Datsyuk cap hit (Which they don't have to pay actual money) isn't affecting the ability to spend money up to the cap because they don't need that extra space anyway. The salary cap could be 65M this year for Arizona, it doesn't matter to them, they are not spending the extra 74-65= 9M anyway. Detroit could then put the permanently injured Pronger on LTIR which will give them the cap relief of his contract entirely. Both teams win and don't have to do anything risky. This is a rare win/win scenario in which no picks/prospects/roster players are affected and they can both continue on their merry way as if nothing happened.

      So why would they risk losing a potential star with the 16oa for Andrighetto?


      Believe me, i would love nothing more then Desharnais being traded away for a 4th rounder. I'm a Habs fan. I'd do this in a heart beat. The problem is Arizona could get a player in free agency who could do the exact same thing Desharnais can do but they wouldn't have to lose a draft pick. They could sign Lee Stempniak to a 1-2 year deal at less than 3.5M and he would be able to produce just as much as Desharnais would and they could keep the draft pick.

      So why would they bother making this trade?

      I'd do the Eller for a 2nd rounder because it saves us spending 3.5M this year and next year. We'd also have that much more money to spend on a big name free agent player who will actually score more than 30 pts a year.

      The Subban trade is enticing but I'm just so hesitant to trade Subban that unless Edmonton adds the 4oa, i think i would rather just keep Subban. Players of his ilk are so rare that you absolutely can't give up on them. Not too mention that we have a very shaky D-core with out Subban with no real super stud on the way to replace him. Subban is expensive but damn he's worth more then people realize.
       
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