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If 1 more trade had to be made

Créé par: markykins1
Équipe: 2019-20 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2019
Publié: 20 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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IF Bmac had to trade one more salaried player on the Caps, who would it be and what kind combination of draft pick/prospect/roster player would you expect?
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1782 000 000 $63 454 295 $1 150 000 $82 500 $18 545 705 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Ovechkin, Alex
9 538 462 $9 538 462 $
AG
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UFA - 2
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Kuznetsov, Evgeny
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C
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UFA - 6
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Oshie, T.J.
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
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UFA - 6
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Hagelin, Carl
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
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Bäckström, Nicklas
6 700 000 $6 700 000 $
C
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UFA - 1
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Wilson, Tom
5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 5
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Eller, Lars
2 415 000 $2 415 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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Boyd, Travis
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Dowd, Nic
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Orlov, Dmitry
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DG
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UFA - 4
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Carlson, John
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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Holtby, Braden
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Kempný, Michal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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Gudas, Radko
2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Copley, Pheonix
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Jensen, Nick
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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Siegenthaler, Jonas
714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
UFA - 1

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20 juin 2019 à 17 h 14
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It has to be Eller or Orlov right? I have no idea what their return would be, but I feel like everyone else that is signed is either untouchable or a small cap hit/team friendly deal and not worth it to move.
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20 juin 2019 à 17 h 44
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Hope Bmac can work some more magic though. Looks like we might only end up being a 3 line team at this rate...
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20 juin 2019 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: cap2018champs
It has to be Eller or Orlov right? I have no idea what their return would be, but I feel like everyone else that is signed is either untouchable or a small cap hit/team friendly deal and not worth it to move.


Orlov could get you a pretty massive return but then you trade your best lhd and would need an immediate nhl ready replacement. Eller is cheap for a 3rd line center imo
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20 juin 2019 à 18 h 50
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People need to get off the Orlov idea. Who the hell would replace his minutes? Djoos? Siegenthaler? A rookie? Look how disastrous losing Kempny was. Now magnify it be 100x. It would be an utter disaster.

The truth is Orlov is reasonably priced. Hell he's a GOOD price when he's on his game, which I believe he's capable of. I think being paired with Jensen and Gudas will only help his game. Niskanen was a really rough partner last year.

The truth is, there's only one guy I'd be comfortable getting rid of and it's Holtby for a high impact young forward. And he'd have to be really damn good.
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21 juin 2019 à 9 h 26
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People need to get off the Orlov idea. Who the hell would replace his minutes? Djoos? Siegenthaler? A rookie? Look how disastrous losing Kempny was. Now magnify it be 100x. It would be an utter disaster.

The truth is Orlov is reasonably priced. Hell he's a GOOD when he's on his game, which I believe he's capable if. I think being paired with Jensen and Gudas will only help his game. Niskanen was a really rough partner last year.

The truth is, there's only one guy I'd be comfortable getting rid of and it's Holtby for a high impact young forward. And he'd have to be really damn good.


I never wanted to trade Orlov or Eller, but those are the only roster players i would think about moving. You can't move Holtby now, cause the team can't win without a good goalie. Unless Samsonov is 100% Ready, I can't imagine GMBM is even fielding offers for him.
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People need to get off the Orlov idea. Who the hell would replace his minutes? Djoos? Siegenthaler? A rookie? Look how disastrous losing Kempny was. Now magnify it be 100x. It would be an utter disaster.

The truth is Orlov is reasonably priced. Hell he's a GOOD when he's on his game, which I believe he's capable if. I think being paired with Jensen and Gudas will only help his game. Niskanen was a really rough partner last year.


I don't want Orlov traded either, just asking who might go if BMac were forced to do something for cap reasons. But think about it, if he did try an Orlov trade he could get maybe a 4/5 LHD back that he could put in the top 4 AND maybe get a 3rd line right winger. Both of these players could be cost controlled with a little term. It would save money and fill another spot without having to dig up someone in FA that might or might not workout. This is of course if he can't/won't bring Burky or Connolly back of course.
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 34
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Quality for quantity trades very rarely work out for the team dealing the quality. It's very unusual. The truth is dealing Orlov would realistically make this team worse for the next two years and this is the team's only window really.

I truly think the likely move is GMBM dealing draft or prospect currency for a short term impact guy like Kreider. I don't see him moving any more guys like Orlov or Holtby because it would be too detrimental.
21 juin 2019 à 10 h 49
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Quality for quantity trades very rarely work out for the team dealing the quality. It's very unusual. The truth is dealing Orlov would realistically make this team worse for the next two years and this is the team's only window really.

I truly think the likely move is GMBM dealing draft or prospect currency for a short term impact guy like Kreider. I don't see him moving any more guys like Orlov or Holtby because it would be too detrimental.


I get that. Thanks for the response. It seems like this time of year GM's have a lot of 'balls in the air' and anything can happen though. I am expecting something from Bmac tonight / tomorrow though and have trust in him that it will be beneficial.
21 juin 2019 à 15 h 0
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Eller, and it would have to probably be a package of Eller+a pick/prospect for a better center with a little more salary from a team that is cap-strapped, or an equivalent center and a bottom-six winger. Top six is locked. Defense is effectively locked once Djoos is re-signed. It'd be utterly moronic (and I mean that to be as insulting as possible) to trade Holtby right now. Dowd is cheap, and Hagelin was just signed. That leaves Eller, Copley, and Boyd. Copley could get moved for a mid-round pick or as part of a package to trade up at the draft to another team that needs a backup and Samsonov could serve as the backup next year, but that's not moving the needle much at all. Boyd is fine, cheap, young, and under team control so there's not much reason to trade him unless you're somehow upgrading at a net-zero cost. Eller is the only one that makes sense, and that I frequently advocate for since he is losing his wingers.
 
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