I mean, Carolina isnt doing it.

Teams can just offer sheet him

for their next 4 first round picks..... Yeah ok.

I don't think you get both Hamilton and Pesce. They also likely wouldn't be wanting Zaitsev.

You Gut their defence and take a soli forward, while forcing Zai on them... Yeah not happening. 4 1st for a team looking to go deep in the playoff each year is much less to pay than destroying a solid team

I'd much rather give my 4 mid to late firsts than Hamilton Teravainen and Pesce while having to take Zaitsev's cap. It's not even close honestly.

Not getting anything for marleau. Need to add a high prospect or a high pick to get rid of him.

Mid to late? Carolina is not going to be that good for that long. Goaltending is a huge question mark. FA defenseman could be leaving shortly. No confidence in this team making the playoffs for the next 4 years.

But they're not finishing bottom 5 imo. Too solid on the backend. Pesce and Hamilton are studs. You'd be lucky to get 2 of them with those 4 firsts. And that's without even mentioning Teravainen or taking Zaitsev into account. Easy move for Carolina, but he probably wouldn't sign an offer sheet there in all honesty.

Carolina isn't exactly a team that likes spending money to begin with. And with Aho commanding 9+ this year... to add another guy at 9+ doesn't seem like something they would be interested in at all as an organization...

The thing is age and contract situation come into play. Hamilton is a UFA in 2 years and can just walk vs. a guy on ELC with 3++ years of control.

You're right here. I wasn't necessarily saying Carolina should do it, but the players listed are worth more than 4 firsts. Honestly, if they don't sign him I see Marner getting traded. And it will be for a package with a value greater than 4 firsts, just not the one listed above.

Fair point. I hadn't thought a ton on that, but I still don't think it equals out.

Honestly, IMO that's the best case scenario at this point...

No chance he stays if he reportedly turned down 11 right?

Good. See yeah later if you think your worth that Mitch.

I like him fine but he's definitely not Matthews or Tavares. I'd be worried he passes Tavares in the near future though. Not sure it's likely.

Offer him 4 or 5 years, wont cost 4 1sts and forced Toronto into a tough spot with shorter term

Probably doesnt want 8 years a la Matthews

If it's over 10.4 million cap hit it will cost 4 1sts. And if its under 10.5 cap hit Toronto would match. Easily. What you hvae outlined is not forcing toronto into a tough spot at all.

Having marner sign for 4 years is not ideal

never said it was. Just correcting your mistake on saying "it's not 4 1st rounders if its only 4 years" because it is. Unless its 4 years at less than 10.5 in which case the Leafs easily match, as I have already said.