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Créé par: ChytilMania

Équipe: 2019-20 Rangers de New York

Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2019

Publié: 16 juin 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Both Buffalo and Winnipeg may be underpays. Hopefully taking on Perrault makes it so that we do not have to give up Andersson or Howden, but that is doubtful considering the competition. Also, seeing that Andersson hasn’t done all that much at the NHL level, there is a possibility he is a bust (although he cannot be deemed that quite yet) and if so, trading him as a part of the package for Trouba will not be something we regret. The same thing could apply to Howden if traded, although he has shown that he has what it takes to be a solid center at the NHL level.
I think Buffalo trade is fair, but if not, a prospect going to Buffalo would be fine with me. NYR would give a defensive prospect if necessary, because we have a surplus of those, or take on a cap dump.
As for the Shattenkirk trade, let me know what you think his value is. I honestly just made a guess. Keep in mind that it isn’t necessarily to Anaheim, but to any team who will pay for him that he will agree to go to.
With 7th overall pick, Rangers hopefully draft a center to fill that 2C role in the future if Howden is not able to.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Deangelo, Anthony	2	3 500 000 $
Buchnevich, Pavel	5	4 750 000 $
Lemieux, Brendan	1	1 250 000 $
Trouba, Jacob	7	7 750 000 $
Claesson, Fredrik	1	850 000 $
Lettieri, Vinni	1	850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Panarin, Artemi		7	10 500 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo		3	925 000 $

Transactions

NYR

Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (BUF)

BUF

Kreider, Chris
Vesey, Jimmy
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

Kreider agreed on long term contract of reasonable value
Dallas pick turns into 2020 first rounder (unprotected)

NYR

Perreault, Mathieu
Trouba, Jacob [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)

WPG

Andersson, Lias
Pionk, Neal [Droits de RFA]
Strome, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

Rangers give either Andersson or Howden (and keep whichever one they would rather have)

NYR

Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

ANAHEIM IS JUST PLACEHOLDER
Whatever teams are willing to offer for him
It’s hard to estimate his value- my guess is a 2nd rounder

ANA

Shattenkirk, Kevin (2 650 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

We will retain up to 50% if necessary

Rachats de contrats

Dan Girardi: 3 611 111 $
Brad Richards: 0 $
Brendan Smith: 970 833 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Ryan Spooner: 900 000 $ (22.5%)
Kevin Shattenkirk: 2 650 000 $ (151.43%)

Enfoui

Matt Beleskey: 825 000 $ (1 900 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2019
2020
2021

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 000 000 $	79 290 276 $	0 $	2 182 500 $	3 709 724 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Panarin, Artemi 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AG UFA - 7	Zibanejad, Mika 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Buchnevich, Pavel 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2
Chytil, Filip 894 166 $894 166 $ (350 000 $$350K) C, AG UFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1	Kakko, Kaapo 925 000 $925 000 $
Lemieux, Brendan 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Howden, Brett 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Kravtsov, Vitali 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 3
Perreault, Mathieu 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Nieves, Cristoval 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG UFA - 5		Lundqvist, Henrik 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2
Hájek, Libor 833 333 $833 333 $ DG UFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Georgiev, Alexandar 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) G UFA - 1
Staal, Marc 5 700 000 $5 700 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 2	Deangelo, Anthony 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1
	Fox, Adam 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Claesson, Fredrik 850 000 $850 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Lettieri, Vinni 850 000 $850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

16 juin 2019 à 10 h 58

#26

Root

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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

26 year old rental who can net 30 points. Yeah he isnt fetching much. Arent you the one that said just give us a 7th for him last night?

Skinner, as a rental, only got cliff pu (echl prospect), 2nd, 3rd and 6th. Vesey nets a 5th, maybe 4th round pick.

Just turned 26 last month and 35 points not 30 and next year he'll get 45 points cause Rangers sucked big time last year and Vesey was jumping form 4th line to 3rd line to 2nd line from LW to RW. He's only got 3 years in the NHL so not much wear and tear.

16 juin 2019 à 11 h 3

#27

OrganizedConfusion55

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Quoting: Root

A 30 point player covers points 30 to 39.

Rangers moved him around like that partially because he kind of sucks. Sorry man, he doesnt have much value.

16 juin 2019 à 11 h 6

#28

Root

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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

He has been in the a 30 point player for 3 years. He is now 26, I would be very surprised if he hit 45 points.

I'm hoping the Sabres let girgensons become an UFA, so yup, 7th round pick value. I would also argue girgensons has more value than vesey, since he can play a defensive role.

So you made my point lol You right away want to put Girgensons over Vesey even with half the points claiming Vesey can't play Def now lol This is why BUF can never make the playoffs is cause all BUF fans over value their players and under value everyone thats not on their team. Rangers can offer Igor Shesterkin, Lias Andersson, 20th overall pick 58th overall pick for BUF 7th overall pick and you'll still say no lol

16 juin 2019 à 11 h 19

#29

Root

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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

A 30 point player covers points 30 to 39.

Rangers moved him around like that partially because he kind of sucks. Sorry man, he doesnt have much value.

Na he was moved around a lot cause Rangers was inserting youth into the line up all over the place.

16 juin 2019 à 11 h 19

#30

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

Quoting: ChytilMania

Skinner trade is not a good example. Looking back at it, every one thinks Buffalo finessed Carolina. A better example would be the Zuccarello trade in my opinion, where he gets a 2nd and a 3rd, that will most likely turn into an1st very soon if rumors are true.

I thought the Sabres swindled the Canes on that trade but then I heard the other day that Skinner had some trade protection so Carolina was limited in where they could trade him which lowered the return for him so kind of makes that an unfair comparison.

16 juin 2019 à 11 h 24

#31

Josh

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Quoting: ChytilMania

So when you said it was embarassing to NYR fans, and also said “delete” you thought I was overpaying Buffalo? Lol

I also doubt Kreider signs an extension without playing in Buffalo, but playing with Eichel, Skinner, Dahlin, Middlestadt, and all the other promising young players may make him want to stay.

Gives Sabre’s until February to resign him, if not, they flip Kreider and/or Vesey at the deadline and probably come out with more than they give up, here.

Or, they treat Kreider as a “rental”, and give up less than they probably will in February to acquire an equivalent player.

ChytilMania a aimé ceci.

16 juin 2019 à 12 h 6

#32

OrganizedConfusion55

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Quoting: Josh

Kreider is no where near the 7th overall pick. Vesey doesnt even come close to bridging that gap.

16 juin 2019 à 16 h 48

#33

Gennaro

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And you balked at my senario lol ...wow.

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