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Nothing Huge Moves with NYR and LAK Sam at C Alex gets his shot

Créé par: Smithcd995
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 11 juin 2019
Publié: 11 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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LAK
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus [Droits de RFA]
  2. Smith, C.J.
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
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Not sure if this is enough. If they take it great if not I look elsewhere. I don't value Toffoli crazy high right now.
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BUF
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
NYR
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (STL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
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11 juin 2019 à 9 h 13
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Namestnikov is a very streaky player be careful with him
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 15
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Quoting: chaywood
Namestnikov is a very streaky player be careful with him


Scandella's money swap for the cost of a 2021 second with some other picks swapped makes his potential worth it to me. If it doesn't work out you lose a second and move on.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 27
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While i wouldn't mind an additional 2nd rounder, Scandella's not exactly good, in a position where the Rangers have a logjam of either rookies or not exactly good players.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 28
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Scandella's money swap for the cost of a 2021 second with some other picks swapped makes his potential worth it to me. If it doesn't work out you lose a second and move on.


the 3rd round pick is a conditional 1st, no way that's a deal.. idk if you'd get the 3rd either.. namestnikov himself is worth a 3rd, so sending a cap dump of Scandella makes it a 2nd.. don't think the other picks are needed either tho. I'd be okay with losing a 3rd rounder in the deal, just don't think it's smart.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 34
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the 3rd round pick is a conditional 1st, no way that's a deal.. idk if you'd get the 3rd either.. namestnikov himself is worth a 3rd, so sending a cap dump of Scandella makes it a 2nd.. don't think the other picks are needed either tho. I'd be okay with losing a 3rd rounder in the deal, just don't think it's smart.


How is it a conditional first? The picks can be sorted out.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 34
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How is it a conditional first? The picks can be sorted out.


Nevermind I answered my own question
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 48
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I don't think Namestnikov and Toffoli have drastically different values. Yet these seems like pretty different trades...Scandella is like REALLY bad at hockey. Not Sobotka bad but pretty terrible.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 50
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I don't think Namestnikov and Toffoli have drastically different values. Yet these seems like pretty different trades...Scandella is like REALLY bad at hockey. Not Sobotka bad but pretty terrible.


Elaborate on the values please.
11 juin 2019 à 9 h 54
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How is it a conditional first? The picks can be sorted out.


the pick from Dallas turns into a 1st if Zucc resigns with them.. so the rangers won't trade it unless he doesn't resign
11 juin 2019 à 10 h 13
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Elaborate on the values please.


Sure I guess....Over the last 2 seasons

Namestnikov: 1.81 pts / 60 mins
Toffoli: 1.79 pts / 60 mins

Both had comparable possession stats.

Pretty remarkable that they were able to keep pace with each other given that Namestnikov had a Zone rating of 42, compared to 51 for Toffoli. In terms Sabres fans can get, Namestnikov is basically Evan Rodrigues defensively. Now imagine if Rodrigues was stuck shuffling around the 4th line for about half a year with guys like Sobotka, Thompson, Larsson, Girgensons, etc. And he still came out and scored 30 points...you'd probably think that'd be pretty impressive and perhaps the coach was weirdly holding him back...yeah that's kinda the idea.

Compared to Toffoli who spent the majority of the season with Kempe and Carter and just as much time with Drew Daughty as both of them...

So if we agree that your 4th and 5th at best equal the 3rd we're giving or come a little below.

The trade starts to roughly seem like Evan Rodrigues for a 2nd and Scandella. I think as a Sabres fan you'd ask to drop Scandella entirely. And you'd be correct in your evaluation of the trade...
 
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