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Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2019-20 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2019
Publié: 8 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
2825 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
79 000 000 $
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NYR
  1. Bonino, Nick
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional picks: If NSH reaches to the Western Conference Finals in 2019-20 season, the 2020 2nd round pick converts into 2020 1st round pick. If Kreider re-signs with NSH, the 2021 3rd round pick converts into 2021 1st round pick.
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NSH
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Daley, Trevor
  2. Watson, Austin
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
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NSH
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
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G
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675 000 $675 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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900 000 $900 000 $
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8 juin 2019 à 13 h 42
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NYR Decline. We’re not conditioning the picks. Especially not when we’re taking back Bonino and the very likelyhood that Kreider stays in NSH. Get Tolvanen, Granlund or the 2019 1st in there.
8 juin 2019 à 13 h 42
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Rangers pass. Bonino's a worse player on a worse contract, and the 2nd & 3rd don't equalize it. Not to mention the fact that the Rangers have no need for him. Kreider's getting a 1st+ if he hits the block
8 juin 2019 à 13 h 47
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Quoting: ChampionNorth2
NYR Decline. We’re not conditioning the picks. Especially not when we’re taking back Bonino and the very likelyhood that Kreider stays in NSH. Get Tolvanen, Granlund or the 2019 1st in there.


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Rangers pass. Bonino's a worse player on a worse contract, and the 2nd & 3rd don't equalize it. Not to mention the fact that the Rangers have no need for him. Kreider's getting a 1st+ if he hits the block


Nah. Bonino's decent. He has value. Also with that roster the likelihood of NYR getting at least one first is pretty high.
8 juin 2019 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Nah. Bonino's decent. He has value. Also with that roster the likelihood of NYR getting at least one first is pretty high.


Still tho, Players like Kreider aren’t going to be conditioned like that. He’s to valuable to not be a shoe-in first. These sneaky conditions are repulsive and cowardly from NSH.
8 juin 2019 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: ChampionNorth2
Still tho, Players like Kreider aren’t going to be conditioned like that. He’s to valuable to not be a shoe-in first. These sneaky conditions are repulsive and cowardly from NSH.


Kreider can bring you first+ I agree. However conditional picks are pretty regular.
8 juin 2019 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Kreider can bring you first+ I agree. However conditional picks are pretty regular.


But again, not for Kreider. He’s definitely bringing back a 1st. Rangers won’t do it again especially with how “backstabbed” they probably feel for the Zuccarello deal where DAL was a goal away from coming to fruition and probably won’t sign Zuccarello according to some speculation from Stars writers.
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 2
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But again, not for Kreider. He’s definitely bringing back a 1st. Rangers won’t do it again especially with how “backstabbed” they probably feel for the Zuccarello deal where DAL was a goal away from coming to fruition and probably won’t sign Zuccarello according to some speculation from Stars writers.


Out of curiosity, if Kreider were traded to NSH, what kind of return you consider as fair?
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 5
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Out of curiosity, if Kreider were traded to NSH, what kind of return you consider as fair?


Nashville Predators
- F Chris Kreider (Extension in Place)
New York Rangers
- F Mikael Granlund OR F Craig Smith OR F Eeli Tolvanen
- 2019 or 2020 1st Round Pick.
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 10
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Nashville Predators
- F Chris Kreider (Extension in Place)
New York Rangers
- F Mikael Granlund OR F Craig Smith OR F Eeli Tolvanen
- 2019 or 2020 1st Round Pick.


That's overpayment imo. Value-wise there's no real difference between Granlund and Kreider... From last 3 years Granlund has scored better...
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
That's overpayment imo. Value-wise there's no real difference between Granlund and Kreider... From last 3 years Granlund has scored better...


But look at how he played in NSH? They’d Most likely do it. And what about the other options?
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: ChampionNorth2
Nashville Predators
- F Chris Kreider (Extension in Place)
New York Rangers
- F Mikael Granlund OR F Craig Smith OR F Eeli Tolvanen
- 2019 or 2020 1st Round Pick.


Those are different in value but I'd do smith and a 1st for Krieder
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
Those are different in value but I'd do smith and a 1st for Krieder


2019 or 2020? And not Lottery protecte yea?
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 23
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But look at how he played in NSH? They’d Most likely do it. And what about the other options?


He has played around 20 games in there...not to mention that he just had a child. It's too early to rate him as a bad acquisition.

Tolvanen and Smith both equal a first. I don't see Kreider being worth two straight first. Smith is the closest one, but why would NSH move a rental for anothet one?
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 28
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He has played around 20 games in there...not to mention that he just had a child. It's too early to rate him as a bad acquisition.

Tolvanen and Smith both equal a first. I don't see Kreider being worth two straight first. Smith is the closest one, but why would NSH move a rental for anothet one?


Kreider likely re-signs and the deal would be around him coming back with Smith and a 1st
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 28
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Kreider likely re-signs and the deal would be around him coming back with Smith and a 1st

Geaux Preds is a preds fan who is interested in that deal so I guess it could work
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 30
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Kreider likely re-signs and the deal would be around him coming back with Smith and a 1st


Kreider is quite unlikely to sign because NSH have other pressing issues to handle, like Josi. The likelihood of either Kreider or Granlund leaving the team would be pretty high. Especially if NSH signs Duchene and keep either Turris or Bonino.
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8 juin 2019 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Kreider is quite unlikely to sign because NSH have other pressing issues to handle, like Josi. The likelihood of either Kreider or Granlund leaving the team would be pretty high. Especially if NSH signs Duchene and keep either Turris or Bonino.


I see. Idk I feel like they’re good trading partners but you just into perspective the odds of that not being the case
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 32
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Geaux Preds is a preds fan who is interested in that deal so I guess it could work


Value-wise it could work, but it's illogical for a contender to move rentals. That just doesn't happen.
8 juin 2019 à 14 h 33
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I see. Idk I feel like they’re good trading partners but you just into perspective the odds of that not being the case


They could be good trading partners, but Kreider must be first considered as a rental value.
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8 juin 2019 à 15 h 18
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2019 or 2020? And not Lottery protecte yea?

Whichever you would want
8 juin 2019 à 15 h 22
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Whichever you would want


2020
8 juin 2019 à 15 h 30
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2020


Ok I would do that. What do think Krieder next contract will look like
8 juin 2019 à 15 h 37
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Ok I would do that. What do think Krieder next contract will look like


I could see it below $7M but Years I’m not sure on. It’s definitely not 8 but not lower than 5.
 
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