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Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2019
Publié: 2 juin 2019
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2 juin 2019 à 10 h 57
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Seems pretty fair, though I'd rather have a pick in 2020 or 2021 than Raddysh, who is a risky prospect. If looking for players, Habs would do better to ask for someone like Cirelli, Baree-Boulet or Fortier, a player who can plug right in.
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Seems pretty fair, though I'd rather have a pick in 2020 or 2021 than Raddysh, who is a risky prospect. If looking for players, Habs would do better to ask for someone like Cirelli, Baree-Boulet or Fortier, a player who can plug right in.


I would rather take a prospect, our depth is so deep we dont need any more 3rd-4th liners
2 juin 2019 à 11 h 16
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I would rather take a prospect, our depth is so deep we dont need any more 3rd-4th liners


Maybe, but Raddysh is far from a sure thing. I'd either want a sure-bet player that allow the Habs more latitude in making other trades or a decently high pick (trade a #3 for TB's #1 -- 26th overall, or something like that.
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Maybe, but Raddysh is far from a sure thing. I'd either want a sure-bet player that allow the Habs more latitude in making other trades or a decently high pick (trade a #3 for TB's #1 -- 26th overall, or something like that.


I doubt they will trade there 1st since callahan only has one year left but i do see them doing Callahan, Fortier and a 2nd Round pick.
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2 juin 2019 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Seems pretty fair, though I'd rather have a pick in 2020 or 2021 than Raddysh, who is a risky prospect. If looking for players, Habs would do better to ask for someone like Cirelli, Baree-Boulet or Fortier, a player who can plug right in.


Man, Raddysh is a solid prospect. I don't know what youre watching? Draft picks are way more risky as you may draft a dud. Raddysh is a future NHL'er. How good he will be depends on him and its looking promising so far.

Also Cirelli is not an option. He's a stud. Barre-Boulet is more likely but saying he's better than Raddysh is not fair at all. BB is a 22 yo 5'9 undrafted prospect. You know whose else did that? David Desharnais......... Fortier I don't know enough about but other than a really good combine last year, I'm not sold he's a stud. I'm way more sure of Raddysh than Fortier as of right now. Barre Boulet has potential but Im not willing to go all crazy for him either. AHL scoring does not means NHL scoring.

Raddysh is younger and bigger, played for team Canada and was dominant for that team, had a solid rookie season in the AHL and is poised for a breakout year if he's not in the NHL. I don't think anyone can say Raddysh is risky. Barre Boulet is the risky one.....

I also think us Montreal fans are jealous of TB's knack for undrafted or late round draft Quebecors who turn into studs. Marchessault, Gourde, Paquette, etc. that they drawn to Barre Boulet for that reason alone.
2 juin 2019 à 12 h 44
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Man, Raddysh is a solid prospect. I don't know what youre watching? Draft picks are way more risky as you may draft a dud. Raddysh is a future NHL'er. How good he will be depends on him and its looking promising so far.

Also Cirelli is not an option. He's a stud. Barre-Boulet is more likely but saying he's better than Raddysh is not fair at all. BB is a 22 yo 5'9 undrafted prospect. You know whose else did that? David Desharnais......... Fortier I don't know enough about but other than a really good combine last year, I'm not sold he's a stud. I'm way more sure of Raddysh than Fortier as of right now. Barre Boulet has potential but Im not willing to go all crazy for him either. AHL scoring does not means NHL scoring.

Raddysh is younger and bigger, played for team Canada and was dominant for that team, had a solid rookie season in the AHL and is poised for a breakout year if he's not in the NHL. I don't think anyone can say Raddysh is risky. Barre Boulet is the risky one.....

I also think us Montreal fans are jealous of TB's knack for undrafted or late round draft Quebecors who turn into studs. Marchessault, Gourde, Paquette, etc. that they drawn to Barre Boulet for that reason alone.


Raddysh is risky in my mind because there's no obvious place for him in the lineup. He's a solid prospect as a 3rd or 4th liner. He could possibly supplant Armia or Deslaurier this year, but we have those guys already. It would seem an unnecessary gamble with the chemistry that has already started to develop on the team. And Raddysh has already burned a year of pro. Barre-Boulet gives the Habs something they don't have a lot of -- scoring depth. But you're right that he could get lost in the shuffle as Hudon did. That's why a late first rounder (even if it means trading up to it) is better because it allows the Habs to keep the cupboard full into the future or have a easily moved bargaining chip at the draft or after.

Habs should be using their cap space now to help GMs who likely won't be there in 3-4 years and could be willing to trade good future picks for present-day cap relief.
2 juin 2019 à 12 h 46
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I doubt they will trade there 1st since callahan only has one year left but i do see them doing Callahan, Fortier and a 2nd Round pick.


I'd take that deal, I think, though I'd prefer to trade the CLB second-rounder to move up 20 spots to the #26 spot. It depends a bit on whether Callahan would be willing to play in Montreal or whether taking him would come with the commitment to buy him out.
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Man, Raddysh is a solid prospect. I don't know what youre watching? Draft picks are way more risky as you may draft a dud. Raddysh is a future NHL'er. How good he will be depends on him and its looking promising so far.

Also Cirelli is not an option. He's a stud. Barre-Boulet is more likely but saying he's better than Raddysh is not fair at all. BB is a 22 yo 5'9 undrafted prospect. You know whose else did that? David Desharnais......... Fortier I don't know enough about but other than a really good combine last year, I'm not sold he's a stud. I'm way more sure of Raddysh than Fortier as of right now. Barre Boulet has potential but Im not willing to go all crazy for him either. AHL scoring does not means NHL scoring.

Raddysh is younger and bigger, played for team Canada and was dominant for that team, had a solid rookie season in the AHL and is poised for a breakout year if he's not in the NHL. I don't think anyone can say Raddysh is risky. Barre Boulet is the risky one.....

I also think us Montreal fans are jealous of TB's knack for undrafted or late round draft Quebecors who turn into studs. Marchessault, Gourde, Paquette, etc. that they drawn to Barre Boulet for that reason alone.


If you dig deep in raddysh the only time he puts up good points is when he has good players around him. Thats why tampa will be a good fit for him and thats why lot of the undrafted people have been good fits.
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I'd take that deal, I think, though I'd prefer to trade the CLB second-rounder to move up 20 spots to the #26 spot. It depends a bit on whether Callahan would be willing to play in Montreal or whether taking him would come with the commitment to buy him out.


I doubt he will play in MTL.
He will probably take a buy out then re sign in tampa.
Depends if he sees MTL as a "playoff bound" team.
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I doubt he will play in MTL.
He will probably take a buy out then re sign in tampa.
Depends if he sees MTL as a "playoff bound" team.


In that case, the price likely needs to be higher as Tampa gets cap relief and still keeps the player. That arrangement with any team (at least in the East) will cost TB its first pick or something close to that.
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