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Longer rebuild than anticipated

Créé par: j303509
Équipe: 2018-19 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2019
Publié: 25 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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It is obvious that the team it not going through a phase where they will be returning to playoff contention anytime soon. This is a full, complete. lengthy job they have initiated. That being said, taking on bad contracts cannot hurt the rangers unless it is in the very long term. Additionally, the only vets around to mentor the large influx of young kids that will inevitably come are only krieder, zib, stall, hank. It only makes sense to take on bad deals for futures.


Below are some contracts I think teams would be looking to get ride of. Post any comments about what possible returns the rangers might get and if I left out any potential bad contracts.
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Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2018
2019
Logo de NYR
Logo de WPG
Logo de NYR
Logo de DAL
Logo de TBL
Logo de NYR
Logo de CBJ
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de CBJ
2020
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NSH
Logo de VAN
2021
Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2879 500 000 $100 266 526 $0 $2 782 500 $-20 766 526 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
839 167 $839 167 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
708 750 $708 750 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 1

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25 févr. 2019 à 18 h 40
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yeah i dont see any of this happening. they're not in for as long of a rebuild, or better yet for as grueling of a rebuild, as the arizona coyotes. If they cant wait for staal's contract to expire in 2 years because they dont want to pay that AAV, theres no way they take on a big contract for even longer. I agree their young guys are at least 2-3 years from actually starting to help this team compete but you have to surround and combine those young guys with good free agents and a continual/constant influx of prospects at some point (not necessarily this offseason). However, you can't sign good free agents if you plan on taking on 3 years of backes and/or 4 years of kesler's high AAV contract - this does not solve anything. It does the exact opposite of what they want. I understand that the idea is to collect more draft picks and maybe, (and it's a hard maybe, they take on contract like clarkson or callahan for just 1 season). However, I don't think it'll happen because the team trading them to the rangers will have to part with a pick/prospect to force the rangers to take on the contract and it's more likely that the team suffers through just 1 more season of callahan or clarkson's contract (or maybe buys them out) then to give up valuable assets. For example., why would tampa trade callahan + picks/prospect when they can hold callahan for just 1 more season and instead try to trade JT miller or tyler johnson and actually receive picks/prospects and get the long term salary relief they are looking for while then bringing a rookie up to take the void left.
25 févr. 2019 à 22 h 12
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Clarkson and Horton aren't bad contracts. They can be put on LTIR.
26 févr. 2019 à 8 h 3
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yeah i dont see any of this happening. they're not in for as long of a rebuild, or better yet for as grueling of a rebuild, as the arizona coyotes. If they cant wait for staal's contract to expire in 2 years because they dont want to pay that AAV, theres no way they take on a big contract for even longer. I agree their young guys are at least 2-3 years from actually starting to help this team compete but you have to surround and combine those young guys with good free agents and a continual/constant influx of prospects at some point (not necessarily this offseason). However, you can't sign good free agents if you plan on taking on 3 years of backes and/or 4 years of kesler's high AAV contract - this does not solve anything. It does the exact opposite of what they want. I understand that the idea is to collect more draft picks and maybe, (and it's a hard maybe, they take on contract like clarkson or callahan for just 1 season). However, I don't think it'll happen because the team trading them to the rangers will have to part with a pick/prospect to force the rangers to take on the contract and it's more likely that the team suffers through just 1 more season of callahan or clarkson's contract (or maybe buys them out) then to give up valuable assets. For example., why would tampa trade callahan + picks/prospect when they can hold callahan for just 1 more season and instead try to trade JT miller or tyler johnson and actually receive picks/prospects and get the long term salary relief they are looking for while then bringing a rookie up to take the void left.


While I can fully see your argument I also think that to bring in a guy like Backes or Dubi would have the same effect on young players as signing free agents. No they might not be as good but in terms of being able to mentor young guys I think they would provide experience and would be good teachers. Not to mention they are high character guys. (Ik that can't be said for everyone on my list). I do see your point about the one year deals
26 févr. 2019 à 8 h 7
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Clarkson and Horton aren't bad contracts. They can be put on LTIR.


With further checking technically Clarkson and Horton can both effect the knight and leafs, but really only the leafs. During the offseason, a team can only go over 10% above the salary cap and LTIR contract do count towards that. It would be far easier to extend all of their young studs without Horton's contract. But yes, dont know how much value that has to leafs, if any at all
26 févr. 2019 à 19 h 54
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While I can fully see your argument I also think that to bring in a guy like Backes or Dubi would have the same effect on young players as signing free agents. No they might not be as good but in terms of being able to mentor young guys I think they would provide experience and would be good teachers. Not to mention they are high character guys. (Ik that can't be said for everyone on my list). I do see your point about the one year deals


I agree that having good vets and character guys are important in developing young players, but so is playing time and experience (in combination with vet presence) and I do not believe Backes or other vets with 2+ years of high AAV is the right call. they can get other high-end vets that cost less and provide the same vet presence needed while not tying up their cap in a way that makes other more important moves impossible.
 
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