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Tdl 19

Créé par: Shibbal18
Équipe: 2018-19 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2019
Publié: 12 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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PIT
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
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BUF
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
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BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
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Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
2019
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Logo de DAL
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2020
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Logo de DAL
2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $67 383 649 $0 $4 520 000 $12 116 351 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Capitals de Washington
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 415 000 $2 415 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
874 125 $874 125 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
650 000 $650 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 142 857 $5 142 857 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
812 500 $812 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 41
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the pens would never do that, at least this season. Maybe when they are actually rebuilding they would but even then maybe not.
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12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 42
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oh god thats terrible
12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 58
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oh god thats terrible


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Ew


Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment
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12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 59
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the pens would never do that, at least this season. Maybe when they are actually rebuilding they would but even then maybe not.


They wont get this high of an offer for Malkin after this season
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 1
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


Malkin is a top 3 center, skinner has a career -95 +/- malkin has a +74, malkin has a better career corsi, age doesn't matter to the pens. Plus malkin is a center which is more valuable than a winner. Just stop
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 1
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They wont get this high of an offer for Malkin after this season


Which doesn't matter cause he's not even available
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 2
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 5
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You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game


Apparently only this season matters. He never touches the fact that skinner is a free agent after this year lmao
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 5
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Even if Pittsburgh was dumb enough to do this trade, why would we trade him to washington for that?
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 6
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Malkin is a top 3 center, skinner has a career -95 +/- malkin has a +74, malkin has a better career corsi, age doesn't matter to the pens. Plus malkin is a center which is more valuable than a winner. Just stop


Im talking about about this year and yes it matters, Malkin is trending. Your letting nostalgia blind you
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 7
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You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game
yeah stats are complete fantasy and only manipulated by whom ever calls for them. They can resign Skinner for the same or less money.
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 9
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Im talking about about this year and yes it matters, Malkin is trending. Your letting nostalgia blind you


Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 11
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yeah stats are complete fantasy and only manipulated by whom ever calls for them. They can resign Skinner for the same or less money.


They can sign him? How do you know?
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 12
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They can sign him? How do you know?


I assume thier owner has money and a pen available in his office, so im sure they have that capability
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 14
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Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi


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Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi


He also has infinetly better teammates and more ice time, your ignoring context to make a half assed arguement
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 14
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I assume thier owner has money and a pen available in his office, so im sure they have that capability


What if he doesn’t want to sign? Here is what you aren’t understanding. They have Malkin locked up, they have no guarantees that they could lock up skinner. Even if skinner was the superior player, which is laughable, Malkin would still have more value.

I assume the Sabre’s owner has money and a pen, why haven’t they signed skinner?
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 15
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LMAO this is so bad. Malkin is still a top 4 C in the league. Give us Mittelstadt, Luukonen and 2 1sts.
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 16
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He also has infinetly better teammates and more ice time, your ignoring context to make a half assed arguement


Actually, they play about the same amount of time. And he's played a lot of time in the bottom 6 and 4th line as well as with crosby. You're the one making half assed arguments
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 19
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 21
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Actually, they play about the same amount of time. And he's played a lot of time in the bottom 6 and 4th line as well as with crosby. You're the one making half assed arguments

Mittelstadt has more assists, and clearly does more with less possession
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 22
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Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.

I am referrijg to this years numbers becquse last year means nothing when your player is 32
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 23
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Mittelstadt has more assists, and clearly does more with less possession


Last time I checked, 14 assists from Simon is more than 11 assists from Mittelstadt. Plus Mittelstadt is a center and Simon is a winger, which means Mittelstadt possesses the puck more
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12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 35
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I am referrijg to this years numbers becquse last year means nothing when your player is 32


You can't fully justify this trade (or any for that matter) if you're only looking at this year's numbers. As I said before, recency bias, 1 year of overperforming doesn't make Skinner than a bonafide top 3 C in Malkin
12 févr. 2019 à 16 h 56
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never in a thousand years do the pens accept that
12 févr. 2019 à 17 h 15
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Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.


malkin could split in two and I wouldn't trade one of the halves of malkin for skinner......
 
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