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Stolarz is the Future not Hart

Créé par: IAMAHOCKEYPLAYER69
Équipe: 2018-19 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2019
Publié: 11 févr. 2019
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Trading Hart will benefit this team in the future as they can ride with the real future goalie in Stolarz and Hart's value may never be higher than this so they should trade him for a king's ransom now
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11 févr. 2019 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
No, because it makes no sense. You have given no explanations as to why you think you are right. You have been presented with data on Hart and yet refuse to acknowledge it.


I understand how good Hart is I have tried to explain that in recent years the goalies that win Cups aren't usually the superstars because they have a full team around them and are stacked top to bottom like the Blackhawks and Penguins even the Caps last year whereas the teams with superstars who pay their goalies ridiculous amounts of money don't win look at the Habs with Price and the Rangers with Lundqvist 0 cups even with those goalies so I'm saying Stolarz can be a serviceable starter as Matt Murray and Corey Crawford were and if you trading Hart can give you the ammo to build a team very well top to bottom which has not been done in Philly yet. This trade would never happen but all I am saying is Philly would be smart to consider the possibility of trading him
11 févr. 2019 à 17 h 17
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I understand how good Hart is I have tried to explain that in recent years the goalies that win Cups aren't usually the superstars because they have a full team around them and are stacked top to bottom like the Blackhawks and Penguins even the Caps last year whereas the teams with superstars who pay their goalies ridiculous amounts of money don't win look at the Habs with Price and the Rangers with Lundqvist 0 cups even with those goalies so I'm saying Stolarz can be a serviceable starter as Matt Murray and Corey Crawford were and if you trading Hart can give you the ammo to build a team very well top to bottom which has not been done in Philly yet. This trade would never happen but all I am saying is Philly would be smart to consider the possibility of trading him


your argument would make sense if the trade produced a superstar level talent coming back. But I don't see one here. So it makes zero sense in that regard. You talk about needing to fill the gaps on the roster but none of the above does any of that. Just creates a giant hole at the position this team has struggled to fill forever.
11 févr. 2019 à 17 h 18
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Ok first of all, no. Second, no. Third, your "kings ransom" consists of Calvin Pickard and Lawson Crouse? Fourth, again, no.
11 févr. 2019 à 18 h 16
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your argument would make sense if the trade produced a superstar level talent coming back. But I don't see one here. So it makes zero sense in that regard. You talk about needing to fill the gaps on the roster but none of the above does any of that. Just creates a giant hole at the position this team has struggled to fill forever.


you underestimate Barrett Hayton sir
11 févr. 2019 à 18 h 16
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Ok first of all, no. Second, no. Third, your "kings ransom" consists of Calvin Pickard and Lawson Crouse? Fourth, again, no.


watch your mouth when speaking about Lawson Crouse
11 févr. 2019 à 18 h 39
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you underestimate Barrett Hayton sir


Hayton isn't even the best prospect on his junior team... I definitely don't project him as a franchise altering player. A nice piece sure but more of a 2nd or 3rd line center. I just don't see the upside for the flyers especially since nothing coming back provides immediate help to fill all these massive holes on the roster like you suggest.
11 févr. 2019 à 18 h 43
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Hayton isn't even the best prospect on his junior team... I definitely don't project him as a franchise altering player. A nice piece sure but more of a 2nd or 3rd line center. I just don't see the upside for the flyers especially since nothing coming back provides immediate help to fill all these massive holes on the roster like you suggest.


alright buddy you can shut up now cause if you think he's max a 2nd or 3rd line center you must be absolutely cooked
11 févr. 2019 à 22 h 30
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alright buddy you can shut up now cause if you think he's max a 2nd or 3rd line center you must be absolutely cooked


lol. Do you have a bunch of posters of him on your bedroom wall or something?
12 févr. 2019 à 3 h 18
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Modifié 12 févr. 2019 à 13 h 31 par Ryan
tears of joy tears of joy Barrett is that you? If you're this soft you'll never make in the NHL, kid.
12 févr. 2019 à 13 h 14
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tears of joy tears of joy Barrett is that you? If you're this soft you'll never make in the NHL, kid.


Thanks for the motivation buddy huff
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: NateElder12
Hayton isn't even the best prospect on his junior team... I definitely don't project him as a franchise altering player. A nice piece sure but more of a 2nd or 3rd line center. I just don't see the upside for the flyers especially since nothing coming back provides immediate help to fill all these massive holes on the roster like you suggest.


Hey buddy watch your tone!! Hayton is the most underrated prospect there is and he's literally gonna be Bergeron 2.0. I'd take him over Nolan glass patrick any day bucko
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12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 24
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Hey buddy watch your tone!! Hayton is the most underrated prospect there is and he's literally gonna be Bergeron 2.0. I'd take him over Nolan glass patrick any day bucko


Well you lose all credibility when you claim that Patrick is glass. 73 gp last season and on pace for 75 this season.
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 27
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Well you lose all credibility when you claim that Patrick is glass. 73 gp last season and on pace for 75 this season.


He could play all 82 and i'd still pick Hayton, just admit you picked the worst player in the top 5 of that draft
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 28
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He could play all 82 and i'd still pick Hayton, just admit you picked the worst player in the top 5 of that draft


by far the worst in that top 5
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 29
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He could play all 82 and i'd still pick Hayton, just admit you picked the worst player in the top 5 of that draft


I'm guessing you haven't watched Patrick play at all. Sure he is taking time to develop but he has been playing really well lately with less talented guys on his line.
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 29
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by far the worst in that top 5


You continue to make yourself look like an idiot. Mores o with every single post.
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 31
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I'm guessing you haven't watched Patrick play at all. Sure he is taking time to develop but he has been playing really well lately with less talented guys on his line.


Hischier > Patrick
Heiskanen >>>> Patrick
Makar > Patrick
Pettersson >>>>> Patrick
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 32
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I'm guessing you haven't watched Patrick play at all. Sure he is taking time to develop but he has been playing really well lately with less talented guys on his line.


Yes he can still be a very good player, but i think he's very overrated and i was never high on him. I think the other 4 in that top 5 have way more upside
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 41
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Hischier > Patrick
Heiskanen >>>> Patrick
Makar > Patrick
Pettersson >>>>> Patrick


Makar has never even played a game in the NHL yet...
Hischier has got to play with the most skilled players on his team for his entire career. Too bad the Flyers have more depth than NJ i guess right?
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 48
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Makar has never even played a game in the NHL yet...
Hischier has got to play with the most skilled players on his team for his entire career. Too bad the Flyers have more depth than NJ i guess right?


Oh Hischier has got to play with more skilled players it's almost like trading Hart for more players to play with him makes sense. It also supports when I said the Flyers stink cause they can't even find good players to play with the #2 pick
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 52
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Oh Hischier has got to play with more skilled players it's almost like trading Hart for more players to play with him makes sense. It also supports when I said the Flyers stink cause they can't even find good players to play with the #2 pick


He is currently our 3C...you clearly know nothing about the Flyers. Do some research before making such stupid posts.
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 54
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He is currently our 3C...you clearly know nothing about the Flyers. Do some research before making such stupid posts.


oh ya I forgot 3rd liners aren't supposed to do anything, that makes sense
12 févr. 2019 à 14 h 58
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oh ya I forgot 3rd liners aren't supposed to do anything, that makes sense


My god you are not very intelligent!
12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 10
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My god you are not very intelligent!


coming from a Flyers fan that actually thinks his team is good this doesn't mean anything
12 févr. 2019 à 15 h 13
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coming from a Flyers fan that actually thinks his team is good this doesn't mean anything


Grow up kid.
 
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