Shattenkirk is not on your trade list. What would the Sabres need to offer for Kevin and Brendan Smith?

HOLY OVERPAYMENT FROM COL!!

How is that an overpayment

For both?

yes in one deal. after I hear from you I will tell you what another ranger fan suggested.

a 1st likely in 15-22 range
an A+ RHD prospect and a 20 year old promising roster player for Hayes alone without knowing if he extends or not, yeah big overpayment even with extension

Not much. Say you retain 50% on both, we’re looking at a first round pick plus. If nothings retained, 2nd round pick and bottom 6 forward or ok prospect at most

First will be lower than that, makar is 20 years old and only has 27 points in 22 h-east games. He’s probably the best piece in the deal and he’s older. Jost is due for a change up hasn’t been able to find his stride

Thank you very much, I love this sort of back and forth candid discussions.
This trade is a little different without retaining any salary:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/191975
NYR trades Shattenkirk, Kevin; Skjei, Brady; 2020 3rd round pick (NYR) & 2020 7th round pick (NYR) to BUF for Scandella, Marco & 2019 6th round pick (TOR)
I may be the only Sabre fan who would want Kevin, but with the Sabres having seven LHD and the condition of the Sabre RHD, Kevin would be a big upgrade. I replaced Skjei with Smith because Ihink Brady has more talent and Smith would be dump. But you know your team better than I.

No chance Colorado or Dallas accept those deals. Maybe even Edmonton says no

Makar is a top 3 defensive prospect right now, Colorado could miss the playoffs so their 1st could be worth something, and Jost can still turn out to be a top 9 forward at this rate.

All that for a low end 2C? In a buyers market? Colorado wouldn't make that deal

Worst overpayment I've seen on her Colorado says no, possibly doesnt even attempt to sign hayes in UFA because of talent coming in from minors and draft

Ranger fans act like Hayes is Crosby with what they are asking for him as Rental. Easily the most delusional fan base on this site when it comes to trade value

Next to leaf fans

It's wild, this guy is trying to act like Makar isn't that great so its more than fair.
I wouldn't trade Makar straight up or anyone in the Rangers whole organization, and he thinks you need Makar++ for a Hayes rental?

I know.. makar for 3 years or hayes for 3 months?? Its an easy decision... I believe the rest of the leagues fan bases arent aware of how good makar and timmins both are, judging by them all trying to send us offers for dmen.. the avs problem right now has be consistent goaltending and scoring depth not defense or an over priced carl soderberg twin

I also like the part about only having 27 points in 22 games in the ncaa.. as a honey Baker nominated defenseman