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Créé par: willdevine
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2018
Publié: 14 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Kyrou, Jordan
  2. Parayko, Colton
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (STL)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (STL)
STL
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita (500 000 $ retained)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (STL)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $72 711 111 $2 550 000 $5 765 000 $6 788 889 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
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767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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10 277 778 $10 277 778 $
AD
UFA - 6
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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758 333 $758 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD
UFA - 3
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650 000 $650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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14 déc. 2018 à 13 h 33
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its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.
14 déc. 2018 à 13 h 46
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its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.


You mean a drop from 31-65 because with Parayko its an auto win
14 déc. 2018 à 13 h 55
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Do it.
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 15
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 21
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.


Depends on how you look at it. Come next year, Kyrou and Grundstrom would be a lot cheaper than Kapanen and Johnsson. Then there would be another cheap/ELC year, then you bridge them. After watching Kapanen and Kyrou quite a bit, I'm not sure you're losing anything in that swap - very similar players - you're just pushing the rise in salary two years into the future.

I'm still not convinced it's a good enough return for STL, especially with Zaitsev taking up all our cap space.
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 27
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Depends on how you look at it. Come next year, Kyrou and Grundstrom would be a lot cheaper than Kapanen and Johnsson. Then there would be another cheap/ELC year, then you bridge them. After watching Kapanen and Kyrou quite a bit, I'm not sure you're losing anything in that swap - very similar players - you're just pushing the rise in salary two years into the future.

I'm still not convinced it's a good enough return for STL, especially with Zaitsev taking up all our cap space.


Ya OK it's a brutal trade.

Let me know when Kryou is on pace for 30 goals / 60 points ... without any power-play time ... playing on your first PK unit.

Johnsson would also be on pace for 60 points if he played 18 minutes a game.

May as well add in two 1st round picks right?

LMAO.
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 32
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Ya OK it's a brutal trade.

Let me know when Kryou is on pace for 30 goals / 60 points ... without any power-play time ... playing on your first PK unit.

Johnsson would also be on pace for 60 points if he played 18 minutes a game.

May as well add in two 1st round picks right?

LMAO.


You expect Kyrou (draft + 3) to have the same stats as Kapanen (draft + 5)? While he's in the AHL instead of on the 2nd place team? Kapanen had 9 NHL pts before this season (1 pt at Kyrou's age), let's give Kyrou a chance to develop like Kapanen got eh.

And when are you going to get to the part where we're trading a cost-controlled 2-way RHD for no apparent reason for some future pieces that may or may not be of any impact? Brutal for sure.
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 42
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You expect Kyrou (draft + 3) to have the same stats as Kapanen (draft + 5)? While he's in the AHL instead of on the 2nd place team? Kapanen had 9 NHL pts before this season (1 pt at Kyrou's age), let's give Kyrou a chance to develop like Kapanen got eh.

And when are you going to get to the part where we're trading a cost-controlled 2-way RHD for no apparent reason for some future pieces that may or may not be of any impact? Brutal for sure.


Brutal trade regardless. Unicorn brutal.

Kyrou might end up this good in 2 years .... but isn't yet .... which makes him worth less than Kapanen.

Just a brutall all around logic and thought process too.

Stop putting thoughts on the internet .....
14 déc. 2018 à 15 h 46
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Brutal trade regardless. Unicorn brutal.

Kyrou might end up this good in 2 years .... but isn't yet .... which makes him worth less than Kapanen.

Just a brutall all around logic and thought process too.

Stop putting thoughts on the internet .....


k bud. if the trade was Kapanen for Kyrou, then you're right. But the deal is about Parayko. What's up with all the "..." are your thoughts too slow for your fingers?
14 déc. 2018 à 17 h 7
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k bud. if the trade was Kapanen for Kyrou, then you're right. But the deal is about Parayko. What's up with all the "..." are your thoughts too slow for your fingers?



Brutal trade though .....
15 déc. 2018 à 1 h 23
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Leafs wouldn't want to do it and can't afford giving up it's cheapest young forwards.


honestly, kappanen and johnsson are easily replaceable. we have plenty of wingers in the marlies, 2-3 easily ready for call-up no problem. we're good
15 déc. 2018 à 1 h 26
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Quoting: A_K
its not bad. what about parayko, kyrou, 3rd for nylander, liljegren, 1st?

kyrou and liljegren are very debatable but I think Parayko is worth a little more than Nylander in terms of trade value. and that's maybe a drop from 25ish to 65ish in the draft, nothing huge.


i think having just signing nylander, i dont think he'll be traded. but, its a decent counter proposal. i figured adding both kappy and johnsson would equal the value of a nylander. ones already a top 6, and one could be a potential top 6 with the right linemates. but, totally fair to ask for nylander
 
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