Penguins don't need a goalie! Don't think Vanek wants to be moved; he signed with a NMC for a reason. Don't think Toronto bites, but the Nyquist one makes sense.

I think Toronto trade makes sense. they need D and they get Glendening for 2,5 years 900k caphit.

Having to move Brown and a 2nd for him and half a year of Kronwall might not be the way to go to be fair. Can make sense to a certain degree, but I don't know if they do it.

As a redwings fan; I think you’re over valuing our players. Nyquist could fetch a 1st but that would prob be it, no prospect to boot. I don’t think Vanek wants to move and what would the point even be for anything less than a third; I’d prefer keep him to mento the kids. I think Pitt is a good landing spot for Howard but not sure about that return; DeSmith has been playing pretty well as of late and I doubt they would part with Matta for a rental.

The Pens do need a goalie! Their best chance for a deep playoff run would probably be a combo of Howard and DeSmith in net. With that I don’t know the return that would work best for both teams in terms of a trade. Det would need a G in return because there are none ready to jump into the NHL currently in the pipeline.

GMJR is not giving up on Murray..?

You could be right. The wings just went through this with Mrazek though: came out strong, looked like the goalie of the future, but when given the starting job he crumbled and never recovered.