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William nylander

Créé par: Skywalker87
Équipe: 2018-19 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 21 oct. 2018
Publié: 21 oct. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
58 100 000 $
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (COL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (COL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $71 833 928 $0 $2 195 000 $7 666 072 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
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885 833 $885 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
8 100 000 $8 100 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance100 000 $$100K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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833 333 $833 333 $
C
RFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 975 000 $1 975 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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3 937 500 $3 937 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3

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21 oct. 2018 à 14 h 30
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WIth eight free agents next summer, leaving 4M of cap space is costly. Adding a twenty goal scorer is nice, but that cap hit is prohibitive. It means Varlamov, Nemeth, and Wilson are all gone next summer. Depending how Grubauer handles an increasing work load this year, that might be fine.

That gives them 16M to give raises to Rantanen, Zadorov, Kerfoot, Compher, Dano, Kamenev, and Andrighetto, plus sign a decent goalie. Figure Rantanen gets an 8.1M raise to 9M, zadorov gets a 4M raise to 6.5M, and they're left with 4M to give raises to Kerfoot, Compher, Dano, Kamenev, and Andrighetto, and find a backup goalie. If each of those guys can be extended around 1.5M, and they're not picky about a backup, it can work. But that all assumes Rantanen doesn't take another big step forward this year. If Rantanen, with 29 goals and 83 points last year, gets to use an 8M contract to 20 goal 61 point winger W. Nylander as a comparable, though, all bets are off.
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Would love to see what you’re going to pay Rantanen next season after you give a 60 point player 10.2% of your cap.... lol
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21 oct. 2018 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: Eli
WIth eight free agents next summer, leaving 4M of cap space is costly. Adding a twenty goal scorer is nice, but that cap hit is prohibitive. It means Varlamov, Nemeth, and Wilson are all gone next summer. Depending how Grubauer handles an increasing work load this year, that might be fine.

That gives them 16M to give raises to Rantanen, Zadorov, Kerfoot, Compher, Dano, Kamenev, and Andrighetto, plus sign a decent goalie. Figure Rantanen gets an 8.1M raise to 9M, zadorov gets a 4M raise to 6.5M, and they're left with 4M to give raises to Kerfoot, Compher, Dano, Kamenev, and Andrighetto, and find a backup goalie. If each of those guys can be extended around 1.5M, and they're not picky about a backup, it can work. But that all assumes Rantanen doesn't take another big step forward this year. If Rantanen, with 29 goals and 83 points last year, gets to use an 8M contract to 20 goal 61 point winger W. Nylander as a comparable, though, all bets are off.


It's 8m is comparable for both. Look at the numbers.
21 oct. 2018 à 16 h 59
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Would love to see what you’re going to pay Rantanen next season after you give a 60 point player 10.2% of your cap.... lol


Rant played closer to 20 mins a night and was a PPG player. Willie played 16... with what he was doing make him play 20 and they have similar numbers
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Would love to see what you’re going to pay Rantanen next season after you give a 60 point player 10.2% of your cap.... lol
21 oct. 2018 à 17 h 16
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It's an idea. Not paying Simmons or varly, lots of better suited FAs coming on the market.
21 oct. 2018 à 17 h 41
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Rant played closer to 20 mins a night and was a PPG player. Willie played 16... with what he was doing make him play 20 and they have similar numbers


So what I gather from this is that if we sign nylander at 7.5m for 8 years a trade for Rantanen straight up must be too good of a deal to pass up right? Save you 600k on the first 5 years and 2-4m on the last 3 years. Since nylander is just as good as Rantanen and you were willing to sheet him for 5 years. I somehow doubt your fan base would accept this trade. Probably about as well as rantanen’s agent would accept this contract you’re trying to ram down his throat.

There is a reason sheets don’t happen. The management of every NHL team has a vested interest in what Toronto does with nylander. They like that Toronto isn’t caving and offering more than he’s worth. Keeps comparables low. If you give rfa’s the upper hand of being sheeted all the time teams will be hasty to get deals done. Which will lead to bloated contracts which then leads to teams not being able to sign their own players coming off of elc’s.

If nylander were looking for 6-7m long term and the leafs were trying to low ball him in term or money, than an offersheet might be realistic.
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21 oct. 2018 à 17 h 48
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It's 8m is comparable for both. Look at the numbers.


Hmmm.... No. If someone who gets 21 goals and 61 points a year is worth 8M, then someone who gets 29 goals and 83 points has about 25% more points per year, and is going to command 10M plus interest.

That's going to result in this team losing a player or two. It is possible they have cap space to trade for Nylander and sign him at the 6M he's worth, but a brute-force offersheet to someone who isn't worth it is going to have nasty repercussions.

"Look at the numbers?" What numbers? There are infinite numbers in the universe. Your comment is vague to the point of not making sense.
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So what I gather from this is that if we sign nylander at 7.5m for 8 years a trade for Rantanen straight up must be too good of a deal to pass up right? Save you 600k on the first 5 years and 2-4m on the last 3 years. Since nylander is just as good as Rantanen and you were willing to sheet him for 5 years. I somehow doubt your fan base would accept this trade. Probably about as well as rantanen’s agent would accept this contract you’re trying to ram down his throat.

There is a reason sheets don’t happen. The management of every NHL team has a vested interest in what Toronto does with nylander. They like that Toronto isn’t caving and offering more than he’s worth. Keeps comparables low. If you give rfa’s the upper hand of being sheeted all the time teams will be hasty to get deals done. Which will lead to bloated contracts which then leads to teams not being able to sign their own players coming off of elc’s.

If nylander were looking for 6-7m long term and the leafs were trying to low ball him in term or money, than an offersheet might be realistic.


On nylander offer sheet the max deal for a 1st 2nd and 3rd is 8.1aav for 5 years. Anymore it's 4 1sts or something like that. I think anywhere between 6 to 7 maybe 7.5 Toronto matches. But 8.1, IMO will make them seriously think. Marner and matthews will be close to 20m combind. 8.1 is high, but its "free agency" in a sense. And you constricted by length. But also your taking a great piece away from a competitor for cheap.
21 oct. 2018 à 18 h 0
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On nylander offer sheet the max deal for a 1st 2nd and 3rd is 8.1aav for 5 years. Anymore it's 4 1sts or something like that. I think anywhere between 6 to 7 maybe 7.5 Toronto matches. But 8.1, IMO will make them seriously think. Marner and matthews will be close to 20m combind. 8.1 is high, but its "free agency" in a sense. And you constricted by length. But also your taking a great piece away from a competitor for cheap.


You literally ignored my entire post.... why did you quote it?
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It's an idea. Not paying Simmons or varly, lots of better suited FAs coming on the market.


Like whom? And realistically who could they get... ek, panarin, stone wont likely sign in denver
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zadorov gets a 4M raise to 6.5M


LOL Zadorov is not getting anything over 4 million. And its funny you say to 6.5 million. Heck Hanafin who is a better and younger defender than Z only got 4.95 AAV
 
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