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Small Ottawa trade Thoughts

Créé par: Turner33
Date de création initiale: 15 oct. 2018
Publié: 15 oct. 2018
Équipe: 2018-19 Blues de St-Louis
Explications
Since Dzingel could likely walk after the year. This trade gives them a versatile young RFA, and a depth D that can can help the bot 4

We get that all important CAP SPACE
And I just think Steen Bozak Dzingel would make a solid 3rd line. He adds some scoring that line could lack
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STL
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
OTT
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
  2. Gunnarsson, Carl
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2019
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $77 049 320 $150 988 $367 500 $2 450 680 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
STL
Kyrou, Jordan
758 333 $
AD
RFA - 3
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
7 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
STL
Schwartz, Jaden
5 350 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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Schenn, Brayden
5 125 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
STL
Perron, David
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
STL
Steen, Alexander
5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 3
STL
Bozak, Tyler
5 000 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
OTT
Dzingel, Ryan
1 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
STL
Maroon, Patrick
1 750 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Thomas, Robert
894 166 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
STL
Blais, Samuel
673 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
STL
Edmundson, Joel
3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
STL
Pietrangelo, Alex
6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Allen, Jake
4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Dunn, Vince
722 500 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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Parayko, Colton
5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
STL
Johnson, Chad
1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
STL
Bouwmeester, Jay
5 400 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Schmaltz, Jordan
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
STL
Fabbri, Robby
925 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
STL
Soshnikov, Nikita
800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
1 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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15 oct. 2018 à 23 h 12
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Don't really think the value is there for Ottawa. Barbashev isn't a terrible piece, but he's kind of getting into that stage where he's on the older side of what can be considered a prospect. Gunnarsson is straight up bad imo, and our D has enough bad in it already.
16 oct. 2018 à 0 h 1
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Don't really think the value is there for Ottawa. Barbashev isn't a terrible piece, but he's kind of getting into that stage where he's on the older side of what can be considered a prospect. Gunnarsson is straight up bad imo, and our D has enough bad in it already.


Gunn is better then anyone you can put out on the 3rd pair, and doesn't hurt cap wise. Barbashev is a solid 2way player that would still be on your team next year, unlike Dzingel. He's only 22. Maybe someone else would over pay at the deadline, but it seems fair imo
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 19
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A cash dump in gunnarsson. Would barely make Ottawa D and that’s saying something. Sens wouldn’t resign him either so no value in that. And barbashev isn’t good enough for dzingel. Expect to give up something of actual value considering dzingel’s one year at such a low cap hit. Will likely bring in big at trade deadline
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 38
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Quoting: JonSnow88
A cash dump in gunnarsson. Would barely make Ottawa D and that’s saying something. Sens wouldn’t resign him either so no value in that. And barbashev isn’t good enough for dzingel. Expect to give up something of actual value considering dzingel’s one year at such a low cap hit. Will likely bring in big at trade deadline


Good so u read my comment right above u. Team control is more valuable then a guy that could walk. Barbashev is good and only 22. Gunnarsson is to dump cap, that's the whole point for us to make this trade. Obviously Ott could be in talks too resign him, but if they're not it's a smart move. And I wouldn't trade anyone besides barbashev (Fabbri, Blais) to get Dzingel

And because I have to, "you know nothing Jon snow"
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 42
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Quoting: Turner33
Good so u read my comment right above u. Team control is more valuable then a guy that could walk. Barbashev is good and only 22. Gunnarsson is to dump cap, that's the whole point for us to make this trade. Obviously Ott could be in talks too resign him, but if they're not it's a smart move. And I wouldn't trade anyone besides barbashev (Fabbri, Blais) to get Dzingel


And I guess you didn’t read mine. Barbashev wouldn’t get you dzingel. Ottawa will have no problem trading dzingel at the deadline this year and they can easily bring in way better prospects than barbashev and even a 1st rounder. And if you’re putting gun in the trade for a cap dump, expect to throw in even more.
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 45
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Quoting: JonSnow88
And I guess you didn’t read mine. Barbashev wouldn’t get you dzingel. Ottawa will have no problem trading dzingel at the deadline this year and they can easily bring in way better prospects than barbashev and even a 1st rounder. And if you’re putting gun in the trade for a cap dump, expect to throw in even more.


They didn't even get a 1st for Hoffman! Barely got one or anything else for the best defensemen in the league! But you think they'll all of a sudden cash in on Dzingel? Stone yes, but not Dzingel
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 51
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Quoting: Turner33
They didn't even get a 1st for Hoffman! Barely got one or anything else for the best defensemen in the league! But you think they'll all of a sudden cash in on Dzingel? Stone yes, but not Dzingel


Any playoff team can go for dzingel considering his cap hit. Offers will be flying in at the trade deadline. 1st round picks get thrown around like nothing at the deadline where the price is always high. The hawks got a 1st round for RYAN HARTMAN. If you think barbashev is enough for dzingel you are out of your mind and sens doing you a favor in taking Gunn as well?! Believe me, yours will be the worst offer on the table.
16 oct. 2018 à 1 h 59
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Quoting: JonSnow88
Any playoff team can go for dzingel considering his cap hit. Offers will be flying in at the trade deadline. 1st round picks get thrown around like nothing at the deadline where the price is always high. The hawks got a 1st round for RYAN HARTMAN. If you think barbashev is enough for dzingel you are out of your mind and sens doing you a favor in taking Gunn as well?! Believe me, yours will be the worst offer on the table.


RYAN HARTMAN IS A RFA! You just proved MY point guy
16 oct. 2018 à 2 h 21
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Quoting: Turner33
RYAN HARTMAN IS A RFA! You just proved MY point guy


Quoting: Turner33
RYAN HARTMAN IS A RFA! You just proved MY point guy


Tomas Tatar brings in 1st, 2nd and 3rd when he only had 28 points prior to being traded. Paul stastny brings in a 1st even though he’s becoming a UFA. Dzingel hits 41 points last year with a terrible team and his numbers have risen each year. Dzingel is also only 26. I’m not saying getting an RFA is bad. My point is 1) barbashev is not a fair piece for dzingel, even if it means player security. And the sens just doing you guys a favor in taking a cap hit with nothing in return, makes a lot of sense. 2) other offers will be on the table for dzingel. There will be 5 better offers than barbashev and a cash dump
 
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