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TOR - CAR Trade

Créé par: Driedger18
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 3 oct. 2018
Publié: 3 oct. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Say what you will about the extra pieces in this deal but i dont see how a Gardiner for Faulk deal cant happen. Leafs are looking for a right shot and Carolina could use a better left shot.

Thoughts?
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66 500 000 $
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $73 208 333 $2 550 000 $5 400 000 $6 291 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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650 000 $650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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5 oct. 2018 à 0 h 51
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"mediocre" on defense? He's minus 22, minus 18 and minus 26 over the last three years. I defy you to find a defenseman with a worse record who's still in the NHL. And "not very high-priced"? He's in the top 10% of defensemen.


plus minus is a horrible stat to base defensive ability on. Faulk is not very good on d this is true but he is better than gardiner. his cap hit is 4.8 million that is 59 of the top 100 highest average cap hit d men not that bad
6 oct. 2018 à 14 h 8
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plus minus is a horrible stat to base defensive ability on. Faulk is not very good on d this is true but he is better than gardiner. his cap hit is 4.8 million that is 59 of the top 100 highest average cap hit d men not that bad


ALL stats are, to some extent, defective or misleading. I remember a piece (well before your time) by the L.A. Times hockey beat reporter disparaging the plus-minus stat. As part of his evidence he pointed to an episode from a Kings game in which Marty McSorley made a bad pinch, turned the puck over and sending the visiting team the other way. Marty turned around, went to the bench (as Wayne changed, too) and as his replacement hopped onto the ice, the puck went into the net, resulting in a minus for the entirely innocent player. But plus-minus, as flawed as it is, does have some utility. When a selection of comparable players all have a plus-minus over three years ranging from minus 4 to plus 38 and a similarly comparable player’s plus-minus over those three years is minus 66, something about the outlier is wrong defensively.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of defenders who have averaged 30 points or more over the last three seasons. None of them is his team’s no. 1 defenseman and none of them led his team’s defensemen in scoring in any one of those 3 years: Muzzin, Goligoski, (Faulk,) Spurgeon, Parayko, Niskanen, Ellis, Martinez, Ekholm, Vatanen. Both honest, dispassionate analysis and plus-minus tell us that we shouldn’t trade any of them even up for Faulk.
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6 oct. 2018 à 23 h 19
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ALL stats are, to some extent, defective or misleading. I remember a piece (well before your time) by the L.A. Times hockey beat reporter disparaging the plus-minus stat. As part of his evidence he pointed to an episode from a Kings game in which Marty McSorley made a bad pinch, turned the puck over and sending the visiting team the other way. Marty turned around, went to the bench (as Wayne changed, too) and as his replacement hopped onto the ice, the puck went into the net, resulting in a minus for the entirely innocent player. But plus-minus, as flawed as it is, does have some utility. When a selection of comparable players all have a plus-minus over three years ranging from minus 4 to plus 38 and a similarly comparable player’s plus-minus over those three years is minus 66, something about the outlier is wrong defensively.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of defenders who have averaged 30 points or more over the last three seasons. None of them is his team’s no. 1 defenseman and none of them led his team’s defensemen in scoring in any one of those 3 years: Muzzin, Goligoski, (Faulk,) Spurgeon, Parayko, Niskanen, Ellis, Martinez, Ekholm, Vatanen. Both honest, dispassionate analysis and plus-minus tell us that we shouldn’t trade any of them even up for Faulk.


just wondering what you think my time is
7 oct. 2018 à 19 h 2
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just wondering what you think my time is


After Gretzky retired.
7 oct. 2018 à 20 h 0
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After Gretzky retired.


not even close saw every year of gretzky career. saw lemuiex play in junior played hockey almost 37 years including collage coached my 5 kids in it to
9 oct. 2018 à 17 h 51
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Not even close! Saw every year of Gretzky's career. Saw Lemieux play in junior. Played hockey almost 37 years, including college. Coached my 5 kids in it, too.


I will be sure to give your comments the respect your experience entitles them to.
9 oct. 2018 à 17 h 56
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I will be sure to give your comments the respect your experience entitles them to.


well thanks i will try to spread my knowledge and wisdom . lol
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well thanks i will try to spread my knowledge and wisdom . lol


More than 30 years' experience has a way of increasing the a priori probability of being right. I wish the kids understood that.
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More than 30 years' experience has a way of increasing the a priori probability of being right. I wish the kids understood that.


i am never right ask my wife
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i am never right ask my wife


AHA! I've got you there; MY wife only says that to me FIVE days a week.
 
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