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Créé par: BringerOfHeat
Équipe: 2018-19 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2018
Publié: 10 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Zetterberg retires and then put on "LTIR"
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (COL)
COL
  1. Nyquist, Gustav (2 375 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
2.
DET
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
3.
DET
  1. Gillies, Jon
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Howard, Jimmy (1 291 666 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2179 500 000 $65 205 831 $755 000 $1 220 000 $14 294 169 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 4
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 5
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG, C
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, DD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 166 666 $3 166 666 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
2 687 500 $2 687 500 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
DD
RFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
6 083 333 $6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
3 954 545 $3 954 545 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2

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10 août 2018 à 14 h 37
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You definitely aren't getting a 1st for a 28 year old depth winger.
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10 août 2018 à 14 h 47
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You definitely aren't getting a 1st for a 28 year old depth winger.


Thank god Nyquist is an elite second line winger then.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 0
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Thank god Nyquist is an elite second line winger then.


40 pts isn't ELITE bud.
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10 août 2018 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: HotsamBatcho
40 pts isn't ELITE bud.


Check the stats bud. Hes at the cut off for first line wingers in points for both right and left wingers. It's your perception of second line wingers that not elite.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 7
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Check the stats bud. Hes at the cut off for first line wingers in points for both right and left wingers. It's your perception of second line wingers that not elite.


Second Line Wingers are not ELITE, I agree he's a decent 2nd Line W but definitely not ELITE.
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10 août 2018 à 15 h 13
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Oh come on, Nyquist is not in the conversation of being elite at all. I get it if you're a Wing fan, I am too, but please just be honest with yourself.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: HotsamBatcho
Second Line Wingers are not ELITE, I agree he's a decent 2nd Line W but definitely not ELITE.


For a second line winger he is which is what I said.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 16
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For a second line winger he is which is what I said.


That literally makes no sense, calling Nyquist ELITE would make half the league ELITE. There is some 3rd liners on some teams that put up the same numbers as Nyquist.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 23
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Quoting: HotsamBatcho
That literally makes no sense, calling Nyquist ELITE would make half the league ELITE. There is some 3rd liners on some teams that put up the same numbers as Nyquist.


Why doesn't that make sense to you? For a second line winger Nyquist is at the very top of the list for scoring: that makes him elite FOR SECOND LINE WINGERS. I can't be any more clear than that so I don't know what else to say. Also, the fact that some teams have more talent than others on their third line is irrelevant to what we were discussing. Oh and btw did half the league have 40 points last year?
10 août 2018 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Thank god Nyquist is an elite second line winger then.


2 things

1) What does an elite 2nd line winger mean? Elite players are first liners unless they are basically a 1C playing 2C then they can be elite or a 1st line winger playing 2nd line because there is also a elite winger ahead of them.
2) Nyquist is a bottom 6 winger on most good teams.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 27
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Why doesn't that make sense to you? For a second line winger Nyquist is at the very top of the list for scoring: that makes him elite FOR SECOND LINE WINGERS. I can't be any more clear than that so I don't know what else to say. Also, the fact that some teams have more talent than others on their third line is irrelevant to what we were discussing. Oh and btw did half the league have 40 points last year?


Nyquist is not at the very top of the list lmaoooo, Nyquist is a 40 point F they're are much much better 2nd Line wingers in the league than him he's just average. And what you're saying still makes no sense just because someone is good on the second line doesn't make them ELITE. I guess this would also mean that Tyler Myers is ELITE because he's good for a 3rd Pairing guy??? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
2 things

1) What does an elite 2nd line winger mean? Elite players are first liners unless they are basically a 1C playing 2C then they can be elite or a 1st line winger playing 2nd line because there is also a elite winger ahead of them.
2) Nyquist is a bottom 6 winger on most good teams.


Saying Nyquist is bottom six on most teams just proves you don't actually use facts to form opinions. I can't argue with you about your arbitrary emotional rankings as I don't have any information on how you compile them. So I'm forced to use facts: Nyquist has scored at or around the cut-off for first line wingers for the last five years. Using those pesky inconvenient facts I draw the conclusion that you are wrong, sorry.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 34
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Nyquist is a versatile middle 6 winger. that being said id love a low second or a prospect we can work with. at the trade deadline maybe try and squeeze someone for a 2nd and a 4th maybe
10 août 2018 à 15 h 36
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Nyquist is not at the very top of the list lmaoooo, Nyquist is a 40 point F they're are much much better 2nd Line wingers in the league than him he's just average. And what you're saying still makes no sense just because someone is good on the second line doesn't make them ELITE. I guess this would also mean that Tyler Myers is ELITE because he's good for a 3rd Pairing guy??? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.


Your making less and less sense. Are you unable to access the stats page at NHL.com or are you unable to spell Nyquist correctly?
10 août 2018 à 15 h 38
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Your making less and less sense. Are you unable to access the stats page at NHL.com or are you unable to spell Nyquist correctly?


I am able to access it thank you very much, and he had 40 pts last year, nothing about 40 pts is ELITE and there's no such thing as being ELITE for a 2nd Line W.
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10 août 2018 à 15 h 38
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Your making less and less sense. Are you unable to access the stats page at NHL.com or are you unable to spell Nyquist correctly?


Lol elite and 40 points in the same sentence not working for you bud the only elite player is larkin and zadina later on but please nyquist is good but not elite lmao
10 août 2018 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Saying Nyquist is bottom six on most teams just proves you don't actually use facts to form opinions. I can't argue with you about your arbitrary emotional rankings as I don't have any information on how you compile them. So I'm forced to use facts: Nyquist has scored at or around the cut-off for first line wingers for the last five years. Using those pesky inconvenient facts I draw the conclusion that you are wrong, sorry.


He's good for around 40 a year. There are a tonne of wingers who can put up 40 points a season. If Nyquist is elite so is Zack Hyman........he is not elite.
10 août 2018 à 15 h 48
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He's good for around 40 a year. There are a tonne of wingers who can put up 40 points a season. If Nyquist is elite so is Zack Hyman........he is not elite.


Huh, thats weird then because where are they? There not on the NHL stat page. On that page it only shows thirty or so guys on either right or left wing that out scored him. Maybe you meant if I added all their weights together I'd get a ton?
10 août 2018 à 15 h 53
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Huh, thats weird then because where are they? There not on the NHL stat page. On that page it only shows thirty or so guys on either right or left wing that out scored him. Maybe you meant if I added all their weights together I'd get a ton?


Including LWs, RWs, and Cs there about 150 (147) Forwards that had more points than him next year and all of those guys are NOT ELITE, calling Nyquist ELITE is like calling Ryan Dzingel ELITE. JUST STOP.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 2
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Including LWs, RWs, and Cs there about 150 (147) Forwards that had more points than him next year and all of those guys are NOT ELITE, calling Nyquist ELITE is like calling Ryan Dzingel ELITE. JUST STOP.


Dude he's not a center. You combined three different positions to get to 147 so um no. See because Nyquist doesn't play three positions simultaneously.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 3
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Dude he's not a center. You combined three different positions to get to 147 so um no. See because Nyquist doesn't play three positions simultaneously.


Either compare him individually to right wingers or left wingers. Otherwise stop.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 4
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Dude he's not a center. You combined three different positions to get to 147 so um no. See because Nyquist doesn't play three positions simultaneously.


I'm just going to stop arguing with you before I get cancer or get banned.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 6
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Either compare him individually to right wingers or left wingers. Otherwise stop.

Ok but theres still 30 LW who are better than him, and being right outside of all of the first Line W does not make you ELITE even some 1st Line W are not Elite.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 14
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Ok but theres still 30 LW who are better than him, and being right outside of all of the first Line W does not make you ELITE even some 1st Line W are not Elite.


What part of "for a second line winger" is unclear? Why is this concept so difficult? I'm not saying he's in the top tier for first line wingers, I'm saying he's in the top tier for second line wingers. The stats, inconvenient though they are, back me up. it seems as if you and a few other people got hung up on the word elite when thats not the point.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 18
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What part of "for a second line winger" is unclear? Why is this concept so difficult? I'm not saying he's in the top tier for first line wingers, I'm saying he's in the top tier for second line wingers. The stats, inconvenient though they are, back me up. it seems as if you and a few other people got hung up on the word elite when thats not the point.


He is an average 2nd Line Winger there about 20 2nd line Wingers and also other 3rd Line Wingers who produce the same amount of points as him.
 
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