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50 Contract Mission Cap

Créé par: ickster67
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 juill. 2018
Publié: 20 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Plan B (If Marleau won't go)
-Potential roster without trades
-Really wanted to re-sign Gardiner
-Willie's bridge was to ease the 2019-20 cap crunch, possibly the riskiest move here
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
810 500 000 $
87 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
32 300 000 $
2975 000 $
2850 000 $
21 300 000 $
2975 000 $
25 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $73 319 166 $0 $482 500 $6 180 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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20 juill. 2018 à 20 h 4
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Wow this team looks rough...
20 juill. 2018 à 20 h 53
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Why would Jonson make 3M he hasn’t proven anything and he accept 750k contract. Nylander either gets trade or sign longer deal he has good years with the players he is playing with you going to have to pay him more than Mathews. Or risk losing him for nothing.
20 juill. 2018 à 21 h 0
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I think the Nylander bridge might very real. IMO isn't signing long term. Don't know starting in 2018/19 the Leafs have control or Nylander for at least four years.
Glad you put Marleau in....he isn't going anywhere. Leafs still might have to make a trade for cap space
20 juill. 2018 à 22 h 54
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Matthews would have to score 50/50 and Marner would have to score only 70 points this year for those numbers to be relevant.
20 juill. 2018 à 23 h 0
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Bill Barilko dispersed that summer...
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21 juill. 2018 à 0 h 13
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Quoting: Fignn
Why would Jonson make 3M he hasn’t proven anything and he accept 750k contract. Nylander either gets trade or sign longer deal he has good years with the players he is playing with you going to have to pay him more than Mathews. Or risk losing him for nothing.


Johnsson accepted the 1 year 750k as a bet on himself. Says here that he made a great bet and will likely be the Leafs best left winger before this season is done. I'm high on Nylander and would gladly lock him up long term for 6.5 M+ but the Marleau contract really puts the squeeze on in 2019-20 and something's got to give. If Marleau could be traded we could also take a shot at retaining Gardiner (who I believe is a top 30 Dman).
21 juill. 2018 à 0 h 50
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Matthews would have to score 50/50 and Marner would have to score only 70 points this year for those numbers to be relevant.


We have to compare their point totals to a replacement level player's points not 0. As a crude example Matthews 85 pts Marner 65 pts. If a replacement level player (given enough ice time) can score 25 then Matthews is 60 pts better than replacement and Marner is 40 points better. Ratio 60/40=1.5 1.5 x 7Mil = 10.5 Mil. Of course there are other considerations besides raw production.

By the way I think Marner is a special player and that we will soon consider 7Mil (or whatever he gets) a bargain. I don't need to mention Matthew's ability as the Toronto media beats it to death but not even he has the on-ice vision that Marner possesses.
21 juill. 2018 à 8 h 43
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Quoting: ickster67
Johnsson accepted the 1 year 750k as a bet on himself. Says here that he made a great bet and will likely be the Leafs best left winger before this season is done. I'm high on Nylander and would gladly lock him up long term for 6.5 M+ but the Marleau contract really puts the squeeze on in 2019-20 and something's got to give. If Marleau could be traded we could also take a shot at retaining Gardiner (who I believe is a top 30 Dman).


Quoting: ickster67
Johnsson accepted the 1 year 750k as a bet on himself. Says here that he made a great bet and will likely be the Leafs best left winger before this season is done. I'm high on Nylander and would gladly lock him up long term for 6.5 M+ but the Marleau contract really puts the squeeze on in 2019-20 and something's got to give. If Marleau could be traded we could also take a shot at retaining Gardiner (who I believe is a top 30 Dman).


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Johnsson accepted the 1 year 750k as a bet on himself. Says here that he made a great bet and will likely be the Leafs best left winger before this season is done. I'm high on Nylander and would gladly lock him up long term for 6.5 M+ but the Marleau contract really puts the squeeze on in 2019-20 and something's got to give. If Marleau could be traded we could also take a shot at retaining Gardiner (who I believe is a top 30 Dman).


I let him walk to use that money to sign the big three he look better than he is because he playing with The big 4. I would use him on the third line and keep his points down and sign him to less and longer
21 juill. 2018 à 16 h 33
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We have to compare their point totals to a replacement level player's points not 0. As a crude example Matthews 85 pts Marner 65 pts. If a replacement level player (given enough ice time) can score 25 then Matthews is 60 pts better than replacement and Marner is 40 points better. Ratio 60/40=1.5 1.5 x 7Mil = 10.5 Mil. Of course there are other considerations besides raw production.

By the way I think Marner is a special player and that we will soon consider 7Mil (or whatever he gets) a bargain. I don't need to mention Matthew's ability as the Toronto media beats it to death but not even he has the on-ice vision that Marner possesses.


That's an interesting theory, more applicable to depth players than stars however. If we're looking at points let's at least use known quantities and not random numbers.

Points per game is a common benchmark, as is Mcdavid's 12.5M cap hit, so let's start there and use their first 2 seasons of scoring. We'll divide their ppg rate against Mcdavid's and then divide that number against his cap hit.

Mcdavid 1.17 ppg 12.5M
Matthews .92 ppg 9.83M
Marner .82 ppg 8.74M

This could be considered a high water mark all things considered. Factor in cap space, inflation, add Nylander and the fact that the Leafs are a contender and the Oilers aren't, and the numbers may come in considerably less.

A lot of these threads have a considerable gap between Matthews and Marner but the reality is that their scoring numbers and importance to the team don't support that salary variance.
 
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