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Post Rust Signing

Créé par: bozie
Équipe: 2018-19 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 26 juin 2018
Publié: 26 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
GMJR will wait until the season to make a move for a 5/6 Defenseman.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 400 000 $
2750 000 $
21 500 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Hunwick, Matt
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
3.
CAR
  1. Sheary, Conor
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
RFA Tristan Jarry
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $77 342 392 $0 $132 500 $2 157 608 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
734 167 $734 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 5
5 725 000 $5 725 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 4
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
RFA

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26 juin 2018 à 22 h 37
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Why would Vegas do that trade??? They might as well sign Grabner, or another UFA winger in Fa for cheaper, and not give up a second round pick.
26 juin 2018 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
Why would Vegas do that trade??? They might as well sign Grabner, or another UFA winger in Fa for cheaper, and not give up a second round pick.


Its more of what I think Hagelin's value is, and not necessarily his ultimate destination. However, It looks like Vegas is going to lose both Perron and Neal, so even if they sign Grabner they still could consider this because they don't seem too high on Tatar, considering he was a healthy scratch for much of the playoffs.
26 juin 2018 à 22 h 43
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Quoting: bozie
Its more of what I think Hagelin's value is, and not necessarily his ultimate destination. However, It looks like Vegas is going to lose both Perron and Neal, so even if they sign Grabner they still could consider this because they don't seem too high on Tatar, considering he was a healthy scratch for much of the playoffs.


They gave up multiple picks for Tatar, I doubt they'd want to give up more considering they might not even make the playoffs next year. Imo it doesn't make sense for the knights to give up draft picks higher than a third.
26 juin 2018 à 22 h 51
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
They gave up multiple picks for Tatar, I doubt they'd want to give up more considering they might not even make the playoffs next year. Imo it doesn't make sense for the knights to give up draft picks higher than a third.


which wouldn't be enough for the pens, I think doesn't make a great match. I think personally they should keep hagelin although they overpaid rust so it makes that alittle tougher to do.
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26 juin 2018 à 23 h 31
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no, they overpaid Sheary. The deal for Rust is more than fair considering his potential and two way play ability.
26 juin 2018 à 23 h 49
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They aren't paying Rust 3 mil a year to play 4th line minutes. If that's all they thought of him, they would have never signed that contract. They are going to play him LW next year. So that skinner trade never gonna happen if you think ZAR is a 3LW.
You might see Hags traded out. go Gunz, Rust, ZAR then worry about the 4th line which can be filled cheaper. Will probably be Simon, RIley and a UFA (Chiasson, Duclair?). Either way the top 3 on the right are set, and Rust is going to get top 3 line minutes somewhere so that's either 2nd or 3rd line LW.
If they keep Hags, it's Gunz, Hags, Rust and your 4th line is Simon RIley, ZAR. Sheary and Hunwick go and that cap space pays for a new RHD. It's not bad but lets be honest a better LW would be nice but they might not be able to find one at a reasonable price with all the cap space out there.
IF they will look for an upgrade at 2LW. There are very slim pickings. Skinner probably isn't it as he has no term and that cap hit. Grabner is more likely but i doubt that too. He will sign for at least 4 mil given his last year. 27 goals and a +13 goes a long way in a new contract. JVR is probably going to be 7 mil a year, Neal isn't coming back neither is Peron. Maybe Vanek is a possibility but considering Neal wants 5+ million for his 25 goals I'm sure Vanek's 24 goals will want close to the same. I'm not sure he fits the system of what they want as a top 3 winger. Maroon maybe but he's a bit on the slow side. Maybe RIley Nash, doubt it though someone will want him to play C and he will make more doing it. They want someone with term on a reasonable contract so my guess is anyone of real talent is out and they go with what they have and fill a 4W.
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26 juin 2018 à 23 h 59
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Id take that skinner trade, Hagelin trade could be better (for the other team) and I would buyout or waive Hunwick- no one wants him
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27 juin 2018 à 0 h 10
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Overall I like the trades , but not the FA signing. If anything the Pens will sign Kunitz for the 4th line w/ Sheahan and Sprong or ZAR. If Rutherford does pull the trigger on Skinner trade it makes sense to do it now and have him for a full season rather than at trade deadline.
27 juin 2018 à 2 h 24
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Quoting: okrepps185
Id take that skinner trade, Hagelin trade could be better (for the other team) and I would buyout or waive Hunwick- no one wants him


the penguins don't buy players out. Besides, it's cheaper to dump him in WBS. But they will trade him out or someone will claim him on waivers on his way down there. My guess is carolina as they are in need of LHD
27 juin 2018 à 9 h 49
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Quoting: pharrow
They aren't paying Rust 3 mil a year to play 4th line minutes. If that's all they thought of him, they would have never signed that contract. They are going to play him LW next year. So that skinner trade never gonna happen if you think ZAR is a 3LW.
You might see Hags traded out. go Gunz, Rust, ZAR then worry about the 4th line which can be filled cheaper. Will probably be Simon, RIley and a UFA (Chiasson, Duclair?). Either way the top 3 on the right are set, and Rust is going to get top 3 line minutes somewhere so that's either 2nd or 3rd line LW.
If they keep Hags, it's Gunz, Hags, Rust and your 4th line is Simon RIley, ZAR. Sheary and Hunwick go and that cap space pays for a new RHD. It's not bad but lets be honest a better LW would be nice but they might not be able to find one at a reasonable price with all the cap space out there.
IF they will look for an upgrade at 2LW. There are very slim pickings. Skinner probably isn't it as he has no term and that cap hit. Grabner is more likely but i doubt that too. He will sign for at least 4 mil given his last year. 27 goals and a +13 goes a long way in a new contract. JVR is probably going to be 7 mil a year, Neal isn't coming back neither is Peron. Maybe Vanek is a possibility but considering Neal wants 5+ million for his 25 goals I'm sure Vanek's 24 goals will want close to the same. I'm not sure he fits the system of what they want as a top 3 winger. Maroon maybe but he's a bit on the slow side. Maybe RIley Nash, doubt it though someone will want him to play C and he will make more doing it. They want someone with term on a reasonable contract so my guess is anyone of real talent is out and they go with what they have and fill a 4W.


I agree on the Rust front and changed him and ZAR at the last minute, because I would see Sullivan eventually rolling with these lines. Sullivan doesn't let what a player is being payed affect his lineup decisions. Also I do think Rutherford wants to up grade the 2LW, and Skinner could come at a discount because of his NMC, and it being only for one year will not scare him away as they did the same with the Brassard trade.
 
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