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HUGE TRADES that won't happen (OTT/TOR/WSH)

Créé par: nyi20
Équipe: 2018-19 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 22 juin 2018
Publié: 22 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
How I see these deals:

-TOR dumps a 2.5 mil healthy scratch and gains a 2nd rounder for taking Ladd's albatross of a contract
-WSH is pretty self explanatory
-OTT swap JGP for a younger Nelson and the big ticket Karlsson for 3 first rounders

Let me know how far off I am on these deals
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 000 000 $
43 000 000 $
44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
811 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Ladd, Andrew
Détails additionnels:
2018 2nd round pick (NYI)
2.
NYI
    RFA rights to Philipp Grubauer
    2018 1st round pick (WSH)
    WSH
      2018 1st round pick (CGY)
      3.
      OTT
      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
      Détails additionnels:
      RFA rights to Brock Nelson
      2018 1st round pick (NYI)
      2018 1st round pick (WSH)
      Rachats de contrats
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2019
      Logo de CGY
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      2020
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      2021
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de NYI
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2379 500 000 $73 231 665 $0 $3 420 000 $6 268 335 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 7
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, AG, C
      UFA - 6
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
      C
      UFA - 3
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 4
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance2 200 000 $$2M)
      AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 4
      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 3
      1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      770 000 $770 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
      DG
      UFA - 2
      1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 5

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      22 juin 2018 à 5 h 40
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      3x 1sts for Karlsson is a lot for a 1year rental... Even if it is Karlsson, the Isles aren't close enough to win a cup with the current roster, so they cannot mortgage the future for a 1 yr shot without any sort of longterm security on that investment like an extension deal worked out in the trade.
      22 juin 2018 à 5 h 59
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      Quoting: SDR
      3x 1sts for Karlsson is a lot for a 1year rental... Even if it is Karlsson, the Isles aren't close enough to win a cup with the current roster, so they cannot mortgage the future for a 1 yr shot without any sort of longterm security on that investment like an extension deal worked out in the trade.


      I Assume when this was made karlsson would come with an extension
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      22 juin 2018 à 7 h 55
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      Quoting: ngikas
      I Assume when this was made karlsson would come with an extension


      If that then I rate
      22 juin 2018 à 7 h 58
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      Quoting: ngikas
      I Assume when this was made karlsson would come with an extension


      Do you think 2 firsts would be enough with no extension? Added the 3rd first because I didn’t think 2 would be enough. What would a proper extension be for 3 firsts?
      22 juin 2018 à 8 h 20
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      Quoting: nyi20
      Do you think 2 firsts would be enough with no extension? Added the 3rd first because I didn’t think 2 would be enough. What would a proper extension be for 3 firsts?


      I’d assume whoever trades for him is gonna extend him 5-7 years 9-11 mil per. Or the trade doesn’t happen until July 1st when he’s elidgible for the max contract for 8 years from OTT then traded, but salary should be 9 mil per minimum I’d say
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      22 juin 2018 à 18 h 57
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      Do you think 2 firsts would be enough with no extension? Added the 3rd first because I didn’t think 2 would be enough. What would a proper extension be for 3 firsts?

      If he has zero intention of resigning and wants to hit the open market, I'd say two early firsts in the same draft is reasonable for a 1 year rental. But NYI isn't even slightly close to being a contender to justify that move.
      22 juin 2018 à 19 h 38
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      Quoting: SDR
      If he has zero intention of resigning and wants to hit the open market, I'd say two early firsts in the same draft is reasonable for a 1 year rental. But NYI isn't even slightly close to being a contender to justify that move.


      I let it slide the first time, but I can’t stay quiet. With Karlsson and an avg. goalie the isles are ABSOLUTELY contenders. If you watched any hockey before the month of April you would know that.
      23 juin 2018 à 2 h 18
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      I let it slide the first time, but I can’t stay quiet. With Karlsson and an avg. goalie the isles are ABSOLUTELY contenders. If you watched any hockey before the month of April you would know that.


      Don't see a lot of Isles games out west, so I don't **know** but on paper, they seem to lack the depth that the final-4 teams had. And even with Karlsson, I cannot see them getting out of the 2nd round without a lot of lucky bounces and a softer opponent. I just don't think they have the depth and firepower to compete with TBL, Caps and Pens for the cup next year on a Karlsson **rental deal.** Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think the Isle would need 1-2years to fill out their roster with their cheap cap-hit prospects before they can be legitimate contenders assuming Karlsson signs long term as part of the trade.
       
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