Cody Ceci and a couple 2nd round picks is not going to get the 1st round pick back. Ceci is pretty awful to painfully average, if thats the "high price to pay" you are going to have to come up with something much more valuable

Like's that is an awful EK trade..the rest are good tho

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/719475 What do you think of mine?

Agreed, but I was looking at it from these perspectives:
1) it seems from the outside that NHL GMs tend to do each other favours as a sort of self-preservation tactic;

2) "Good hockey men" seem to think Ceci is a good player (even if I've never understood how or why they would);

3) I'm thinking this trade happens at the 2018 draft and Colorado would have to make the choice whether to hang onto the first rounder which, with the volatility that parity in the NHL brings, could be anywhere from #1 overall to a non-lottery pick (remember, we're talking about the perspective of "good hockey men" whose attitudes towards these things seem to be suspect at best), or to take an established NHL right-shot, minute-munching defenseman + two relatively high draft picks from a boom-and-bust team.

Yes, it's terrible. But, I don't think that Vegas is willing to move any of their prospects, so I figure the only options that Dorion would have to make this trade is to get serviceable young players that Vegas can't afford to keep anyway, a first round pick, and the money savings they'd get from dumping Ryan's contract. The last of those might be the most important from Melnyk's warped perspective. I wasn't looking at this from the perspective of what I'd do, but what the organization is likely to do.

I dont think Sakic is going to be doing anyone any favours and Avs have a few analytic heavy front office now that influence a lot of their moves. Ceci would have red flags all over the place

Avs take the risk in Sens being an awful team again, that roster isnt deep enough and with their 37 year old goalie coming off a major injury and bad back up in Condon. That team can easily be a dumpster fire especially if they move EK.

I dont see many trades that would tempt them to move that pick back to the Sens

Oh, that's good to hear from Colorado's perspective. Some of that team's past moves made me think Sakic might still be someone that could be duped into thinking Ceci was worth something. I still think that Ottawa is going to make a hard pitch to get that pick back, but it sounds like it will take a king's ransom to do so, as it should.