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2 trades - thoughtful comments please

Créé par: RicXX
Équipe: 2018-19 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2018
Publié: 7 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Signings: Oduya, Versteeg and Pirri signed purely for the AHL, would also be good replacements for injuries. Not sure if I hit the numbers for JVR but a good signing, as is Hickey. The trade with Montreal is for cap space and also to gain picks a bit later than first round. Not sure if Seabrook would waive his NTC to go anywhere but figure if he would if would be to Van. The Bolland Hossa trade is actually a favor for Ari, hence they putting in the 3rd rounder. Hawks stay the same cap with Bolland on IR and Ari gets the help for the floor for 3 years instead of 1.
HJ not signed as of yet by the real club, I also held out as there was not much point bringing him across. just let him continue his development another year, then bring him over. Other players in the system are NCAA so they can finish out there without cost.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
32 000 000 $
2700 000 $
21 200 000 $
31 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
33 300 000 $
32 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
36 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Seabrook, Brent
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CHI)
2.
CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CHI)
MTL
  1. Anisimov, Artem
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
3.
CHI
  1. Bolland, Dave
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (CAR)
ARI
  1. Hossa, Marián
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NSH
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
2019
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de BOS
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de ANA
2020
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2380 000 000 $64 750 545 $1 232 500 $2 090 000 $15 249 455 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
van Riemsdyk, James
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Toews, Jonathan
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Saad, Brandon
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
DeBrincat, Alex
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Schmaltz, Nick
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Kane, Patrick
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Duclair, Anthony
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Hinostroza, Vinnie
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Sikura, Dylan
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Exempté du ballottageEjdsell, Victor
833 750 $833 750 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Nash, Riley
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Hayden, John
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Jurco, Tomas
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Kämpf, David
925 000 $925 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Rutta, Jan
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Crawford, Corey
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Hickey, Thomas
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Murphy, Connor
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Hutton, Carter
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Gustafsson, Erik
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Exempté du ballottageHillman, Blake
925 000 $925 000 $
D
UFA - 1
Carlsson, Lucas
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Bolland, Dave
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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7 juin 2018 à 10 h 53
#1
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Not retaining on ROR, especially not that much. Also not giving up two seconds, of which include 32oa this year in which the sabres could steal a player. No interest in overrated Crawford, especially when he only has two years left on his contract.
7 juin 2018 à 10 h 55
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I think the MTL trade is reasonable and would go through. However, I doubt BUF would retain the salary you suggested PLUS 2 2nd round picks for Crawford - especially with his injury concerns. IMO, you'd have to give up Crawford+2nd for ROR without retention
7 juin 2018 à 10 h 59
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The MTL trade is really interesting. Im sure montreal would love another first round pick but because our 2nd round picks and that first round pick aren't so far apart, I don't see them doing this trade, and I don't think they are interested in 30 YO anisimov carrying 4.5 for the next 2 years
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7 juin 2018 à 11 h 0
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Definite NO from MTL pov. Lehkonen=Anisimov. 35th and 38 th picks are an overpay for 27th. At that level all those picks have the approximate same value.
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7 juin 2018 à 11 h 12
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RicXX
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Ya I was thinking the same with ROR trade, really was unsure of it to be honest as I said, was just wanting some other peoples opinions to see.
As for the MTL trade, the 2 second round picks is pretty standard for a late first, though I can see your point with Lekonen so will make some adjustments.
7 juin 2018 à 11 h 49
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Quoting: RicXX
Ya I was thinking the same with ROR trade, really was unsure of it to be honest as I said, was just wanting some other peoples opinions to see.
As for the MTL trade, the 2 second round picks is pretty standard for a late first, though I can see your point with Lekonen so will make some adjustments.


Michael Schuckers has done a pick for pick value chart. Pick 27 holds a value of 162, pick 35 holds a value of 152, and pick 38 holds a value of 150... Even if you use Pick 38 and Pick 56 (112) or Pick 62 (104) the values are way off. So no, two 2nd round picks are not standard for jumping up 7 draft spots. In this range it is very likely that your player falls to you, or you are equally happy with the next guy on your list as this area of the draft is a crap shoot for consensus rankings. Bad trade from Montreal's perspective all round.
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7 juin 2018 à 12 h 0
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Michael Schuckers has done a pick for pick value chart. Pick 27 holds a value of 162, pick 35 holds a value of 152, and pick 38 holds a value of 150... Even if you use Pick 38 and Pick 56 (112) or Pick 62 (104) the values are way off. So no, two 2nd round picks are not standard for jumping up 7 draft spots. In this range it is very likely that your player falls to you, or you are equally happy with the next guy on your list as this area of the draft is a crap shoot for consensus rankings. Bad trade from Montreal's perspective all round.


Robb that is very handy information, though I was editing the trade and removed the player involved.
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