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Fla and NYI trade

Créé par: RipperRob
Équipe: 2018-19 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2018
Publié: 30 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Brodie - based on comparables (and despite a down year) should fetch a 1st, 2nd and later pick. Or at least a 1st and a couple 3rds. I think recouping most of our Hamonic-deal picks is fair.
I think the offer to Fla is more than fair - and gives us a RW for the top line and another 1st.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
21 100 000 $
21 250 000 $
21 100 000 $
2950 000 $
2950 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
2.
CGY
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Dubé, Dillon
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Adam Fox
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
Logo de CGY
Logo de FLA
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de NYI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2019
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de NYI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CAR
2020
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2378 000 000 $59 566 309 $0 $2 277 500 $18 433 691 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 5
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 6
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
705 000 $705 000 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 3
3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
755 833 $755 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
UFA - 2

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30 mai 2018 à 13 h 50
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We don't really need another 1st at the expense of guys who are almost NHL ready like Dube and Fox. Flames need good young players now, not guys who might turn into NHL players 2-3 years from now. The window is opening right away.
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30 mai 2018 à 14 h 15
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Fox is going back to Harvard for another year . . . and has not necessarily committed to playing for CGY in the future.
If we can flip him for a mid to late 1st then the timelines for getting that player into the lineup are not that delayed.

Then how about Bjugstad for Bennett and Dube?
I agree CGY window is opening quickly - so getting an established 1st line RW in exchange for Bennett and a guy who hasn't yet cracked the lineup makes sense.
If CGY waited for possible breakouts by Bennett and Dube - that may take a couple years!

I'm all for giving Brodie a chance to rebound after last year - having him clicking gives the Flames a better opportunity to win than handing minutes over to a rookie . However if the price is right, and coaches were confident enough in young D-men, I would take the picks.
30 mai 2018 à 14 h 57
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Although Bjugstad is a RW, I wouldn't say he's an elite one and so the trade of both Bennett and Dube is a big loss for the Flames, because I believe Bennett is still improving and Dube will be an effective middle 6er probably this season. Are we really gaining anything over having Ferland as 1RW, outside of a RHS? Throwing in Fox and a 4th for a 2018 1st rounder (15 OA) also seems like a big gamble, unless there was some insider info leading you to believe we could not sign Fox.

As for Brodie, although we MIGHT make out fine with the picks in 2-3 years, he should be used in a hockey trade to get that top-level RW we need now.
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31 mai 2018 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: RipperRob
Fox is going back to Harvard for another year . . . and has not necessarily committed to playing for CGY in the future.
If we can flip him for a mid to late 1st then the timelines for getting that player into the lineup are not that delayed.

Then how about Bjugstad for Bennett and Dube?
I agree CGY window is opening quickly - so getting an established 1st line RW in exchange for Bennett and a guy who hasn't yet cracked the lineup makes sense.
If CGY waited for possible breakouts by Bennett and Dube - that may take a couple years!

I'm all for giving Brodie a chance to rebound after last year - having him clicking gives the Flames a better opportunity to win than handing minutes over to a rookie . However if the price is right, and coaches were confident enough in young D-men, I would take the picks.


I agree with the premise of a #1 RW, but Bjugstad has only cracked 20 goals once in his career, and his 19 last year was largely a product of playing with 2/3 of Barkov, Huberdeau, and Trochek. I don't see him as a guy worth giving up those kind of assets for. Fox fora 1st I'd be ok with because it seems less likely that he will sign here with his going back for his senior year, but Flames management probably knows more about where his head is at than I do, and if he does want to come here, he could be a great addition.

The Brodie deal isn't bad, but I would rather package Brodie, Bennett and Fox (or something similar) to go after a legit top line RW like a Mark Stone or Mike Hoffman.
 
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