Very leaf-sided deals

You're not wrong. I don't think it's impossible though, mainly because of the flap both management groups are in.

For the trades, Edmonton might insist on Carrick and a second instead of Hainsey and a fourth. If it came to that, doesn't bother me. Actually that makes more sense as it would also give them some cap help... Can you tell I messed around with this a few times?
The Carolina trade is kinda whatever. If they can pry away Pesce one way or another that's the main object, the pieces going the other way don't really matter. If they lose Mac for nothing, oh well... It's just that as well as he's played, he's in the way of the young guys. Same problem he had in Colombus. I think the key to that one is the pick, the rest is cap acrobatics mainly.

As far as the signings go, it's a matter of "take this or go elsewhere", so oh well, but I don't think they're unreasonable. Nylander isn't at Pasternak standards yet, who got 6.67x6, so I think 6x6 makes sense. Bozak is past peak and made 4.2 last season, he was a Leafs fan as a kid and probably would love to stick around--haircut on salary is the condition. Nash currently makes 900k. He's worth more than that for sure, but he's also 28. Not sure what he's looking for but 2.25m is actually most likely too high. He had an outstanding year but it's an extreme outlier. All in all I don't think it's unrealistic. 6x1 for Thornton is not unreasonable value but it is admittedly probably not enough to drag him away from San Jose. For one year though, they could afford to spend a little more if it came to that.

Anyway, that's my thinking. You're right about it being leaf-sided, but that's kinda the point, isn't it? Built our favorite team as well as we can imagine.

Firstly the Edmonton trade is a little off, in my opinion maybe you could put gardiner and timashov in their to make it a three way deal with Carolina. . Secondly why did you sign 3 UFA centers? because I think the leafs only need to sign one center (personally I think Riley Nash is the best option for 3rd line center).

Sadly these are Leaf sided to the point that it just isn't remotely realistic. You aren't getting a top 4, young, RH, signed Pesce for a 6/7 D, a backup, and a 3rd. It's just insane.. Sorry lol. The Larsson deal is in the same situation heavy heavy underpayment.

"You're right about it being leaf-sided, but that's kinda the point, isn't it? Built our favorite team as well as we can imagine."

no, I don't think that should be the point at all. maybe constructing teams, some logical trades so there is so good discussion, some learning, but if the intend built a team unrealistically, why bother reading such posts.

The idea behind the extra centers was basically for depth. Leafs have plenty of capable wingers available, and imo serviceable d-men as well if they were just pushed a little further down the depth chart... also it looks like that part of the team may even solve itself through the Marlies, just not right away, which is the issue. I may be in the minority here, but I think the big weakness is at center. Matthews and Kadri are good, but there's not much after that. Nylander is a maybe (or a probably, but still unproven). Aaltonen, as far as I knew, wasn't quite ready... I stand to be corrected on that. That's pretty much the logic, or lack thereof, that I was going on

I'm not trying to build a team unrealistically... perhaps that wasn't the best choice of words. I should have said "To build our favorite team as well as we can believe being possible".

As far as possibility, I think we need to take into account the executives pulling the trigger as much as the values of the players involved. To that end, my suggested Edmonton trade... IMO the biggest obstacle is Taylor Hall exists and is amazing, and is forever linked to Adam Larsen. Otherwise, Chiarelli is known to like size and brute force. Martin. They need wingers. Leivo is not getting many chances in Toronto, but nearly every time he got in the lineup he had a positive impact. Also, he's big and feisty. Hainsey is a great locker room guy, a fairly effective d-man, but more importantly to Edmonton (based on precedent at least, see Russel) he passes the eye-test, no matter what the stats might say. Plus a pick. Three roster players of the type the management there seems to favour and a future... I can see them biting.

As far as Carolina goes, my logic (...) ran in a similar direction of exploiting panicked people, but I'm not going to bother defending that one. The more I look at it the less I like what I did and the less I believe it could happen. I'm not changing it though, that can wait until the next time.

As far as discussion goes, have at it. I've given you a starter, show me why I'm wrong instead of just saying that it is so. Whatever we pull together can help make the next attempt better.

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I'm not going to defend the Carolina trade (well, except for the remark about Carrick being a 6/7 D... I believe his ceiling is significantly higher than that, but I doubt he gets a shot playing for Babcock). Like I said to Clark the more I look at it the less I like what I did there, you're absolutely right. As far as Edmonton goes, again, see my reply to Clark. I don't think you're wrong about the value being off, purely on my estimation of all the players involved, but I don't think that makes this particular trade unrealistic. Bear in mind who's in charge in Edmonton, all three of those seem to be types of players that Chiarelli likes. So 3 roster players and a future. I can see them biting, the biggest obstacle IMO is the fact that they traded Taylor Hall for him.

I get it. I just have a hard time using who is at the helm of a franchise as the reason why they can easily get killed in a deal. I promise if Larsson was only going to cost that much he'd have been gone a long time ago. To get them thinking on that deal the pick should probably be our 1st. Even then it doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in the direction of their team. I think you need a little more quality and a little less quantity in these deals. Respect the effort and ability to realize maybe the values aren't perfect though

TBH I thought that the pick should be higher after I posted, but I decided to just leave it standing with a note at the end.
Anyway, your opinion is noted and filed for next time. I'm definitely having another go at this.

Cheers