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Créé par: Bryzgalovs_bears

Équipe: 2018-19 Red Wings de Detroit

Date de création initiale: 15 mai 2018

Publié: 15 mai 2018

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

* AA gets us the young back up goalie with promise we need (I like DeSmith better than Jarry).

* Without Hagelin I think it would be AA for DeSmith and a 3rd. So the 2nd is an upgrade for taking Hagelins contract. Plus his contract is expiring and we can deal him at the deadline.

*Martin adds grit and helps with Toronto's cap situation. He'll be in the line up when playing against physical teams and if one of the younger players is underperforming.

* I like Mike Green. Our defense and PP will be much worse without him.

* Hicketts and Svechnikov had rough seasons in GR, but looked good in Detroit. I think they'll dominate the AHL and get called up after the deadline or if theres a major injury. Afterwards they'll be regulars in the Line up. Hronek, Pope, and Turgeon will get some looks too.

* Hagelin, Nyquist, and Jensen moved at the deadline.

*Lashoff plays if a dman needs a maintenance day.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	2	1 000 000 $
Frk, Martin	2	950 000 $
Larkin, Dylan	8	6 250 000 $
Mantha, Anthony	2	2 800 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Green, Mike		2	4 500 000 $

Transactions

DET

DeSmith, Casey
Hagelin, Carl
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PIT)

PIT

Rights to Andreas Athanasiou

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	78 000 000 $	73 094 998 $	755 000 $	750 000 $	4 905 002 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bertuzzi, Tyler 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Zetterberg, Henrik 6 083 333 $6 083 333 $ C UFA - 3	Nyquist, Gustav 3 325 000 $3 325 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 1
Helm, Darren 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ C, AG, AD NTC UFA - 3	Larkin, Dylan 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Mantha, Anthony 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Abdelkader, Justin 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 5	Nielsen, Frans 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Rasmussen, Michael 894 166 $894 166 $ (750 000 $$750K) AG, C UFA - 3
	Glendening, Luke 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 3	Frk, Martin 950 000 $950 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Hagelin, Carl 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ AG UFA - 1		Martin, Matt 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Green, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Kronwall, Niklas 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Howard, Jimmy 5 291 666 $5 291 666 $ G UFA - 1
Ericsson, Jonathan 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Daley, Trevor 3 166 666 $3 166 666 $ DD NTC UFA - 2
DeKeyser, Danny 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 4	Jensen, Nick 812 500 $812 500 $ DD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey 675 000 $675 000 $ G UFA - 1
Lashoff, Brian 650 000 $650 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Witkowski, Luke 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Franzen, Johan 3 954 545 $3 954 545 $ AD, AG UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Abdelkader, J.		Zetterberg, H.		Mantha, A.
	Nyquist, G.		Kronwall, N.

Avantage numérique 2
Bertuzzi, T.		Larkin, D.		Rasmussen, M.
	Frk, M.		Green, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Nielsen, F.	Helm, D.
	Ericsson, J.	Daley, T.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Larkin, D.	Glendening, L.
	DeKeyser, D.	Jensen, N.

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 7

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Leafs have no need for Ouellette also I can't see why Detroit would want to help a divisional rival like that.

I'm just glad it isn't Martin for Glendenning again...

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 8

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I couldn’t see Detroit making that trade but hey I’ll take it!!!!

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 12

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Quoting: mhockey91

I couldn’t see Detroit making that trade but hey I’ll take it!!!!

which trade?

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 17

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Quoting: DJSums17

Leafs have no need for Ouellette also I can't see why Detroit would want to help a divisional rival like that.

I'm just glad it isn't Martin for Glendenning again...

It's a cap dump for Toronto since they have some important RFA's to sign in the next few years. XO's contract expires next year, so they can just let him walk. I liked Martin when he was in New York. He'll most likely be in the lineup when we play physical teams or if one of the young players isn't playing well. Like if we're playing Boston he would be very helpful. So Witkowski but with more offense.

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 19

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Quoting: Bryzgalovs_bears

which trade?

15 mai 2018 à 19 h 31

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Quoting: mhockey91

He's honestly not that great. He's freakishly fast, good at forcing turnovers, creative, and has a good shot. He's a huge defensive liability that's not worth his offensive production, doesn't always show up to games, only effective in a limited role, and struggles to play center. He's worth about a 2nd and 3rd round pick (Kyle Palmieri trade for comparison). He doesn't really fit in with Detroit's plans and I'd rather get something for him.

15 mai 2018 à 20 h 4

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Why would DET make that trade with PIT? What are they getting in return? An unproven goalie, an overpaid 3rd liner, and a 2nd? AA is a legit young talent. DET needs young guys to build around.

15 mai 2018 à 20 h 18

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

Why would DET make that trade with PIT? What are they getting in return? An unproven goalie, an overpaid 3rd liner, and a 2nd? AA is a legit young talent. DET needs young guys to build around.

AA is not that good (see my previous comment) and is clearly not part of the wings future. The Wings are getting a 2nd, a cap dump that can be moved at the deadline (Hagelin is a serious playoff performer so he'll fetch a 2nd or so), and a goalie who excelled in college and posted a .920 last season on a cheap contract for an inconsistent 3rd line winger who can't break 40 pts or 20 goals while being a major defensive liability and used in a sheltered role.

15 mai 2018 à 20 h 54

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Quoting: Bryzgalovs_bears

I love when people make trades on here for a player then say "he's not that good" haha You know he's good, that's why you're trying to acquire him!

15 mai 2018 à 21 h 11

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I love when people make trades on here for a player then say "he's not that good" haha You know he's good, that's why you're trying to acquire him!

I'm a wings fan. I just want to get something for him while he still has value. He had plenty of opportunities to become a top 6 forward, but he kept squandering his chances. Bertuzzi surpassing him in the depth chart was the final nail in the coffin.

16 mai 2018 à 14 h 25

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i like the Pittsburgh trade but id prefer jarry to desmith. i think jarry is farther along and just a bit more polished and composed. haggs is a pure rental that can be flipped at the trade deadline for a pick. i like AA but i don't see him developing into a top 6 forward so sell high.

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16 mai 2018 à 17 h 55

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Quoting: Bryzgalovs_bears

I'd rather have a draft pick. They don't NEED to get of Martins contract to sign the kids.

16 mai 2018 à 19 h 24

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Quoting: DJSums17

I'd rather have a draft pick. They don't NEED to get of Martins contract to sign the kids.

Martin is a decent 4th line player. That trade is the red wings get somebody useful and Toronto gets a cap dump and XO could find his game with Babcock. I think it's better than just losing him in waivers. They'll need every penny when Matthews elc expires.

17 mai 2018 à 12 h 10

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Quoting: Bryzgalovs_bears

Leafs have plenty of cap space

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17 mai 2018 à 14 h 51

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Quoting: DJSums17

Leafs have plenty of cap space

Yeah you're right. If they're smart with free agency and re-signing veterans, they shouldn't have too much problems signing Matthews and Marner.

17 mai 2018 à 15 h 14

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Quoting: Bryzgalovs_bears

Yeah you're right. If they're smart with free agency and re-signing veterans, they shouldn't have too much problems signing Matthews and Marner.

And with guys like Dubas and Pridham I have full faith they can do it. And if Hunter stays they can draft guys to replace those vets with cheaper players.

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