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Minor...ish trade with PHI and a small deal with DET

Créé par: TheMooterus
Équipe: 2018-19 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2018
Publié: 20 avr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I'd be interested in Philly fans thoughts on the Spezza trade. Read a couple of reports about Philly possibly needing depth help at Center. Do y'all agree with that, or would the Stars be better off trying to ship Spezza elsewhere? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
2950 000 $
43 750 000 $
32 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
67 250 000 $
Nichushkin, Valeri
22 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
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1.
DAL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (DET)
2.
DAL
  1. Neuvirth, Michal
Détails additionnels:
Gives the Stars a proven backup goalie that can step in and give us some wins if/when Bishop goes down with an injury
PHI
  1. Nyberg, John
  2. Spezza, Jason (3 750 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Spezza would fill a good 3C role for Philadelphia. Even with Dallas retaining half of his salary that's still a pricy 3C, hence the pick and Nyberg. Nyberg is a prospect who still has some development left and still shows good potential.
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2280 000 000 $77 174 166 $0 $3 000 000 $2 825 834 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
UFA - 1
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Avantage numérique 2
Nichushkin, V.
Infériorité numérique 1
Infériorité numérique 2

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20 avr. 2018 à 22 h 8
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Philly can take that, although they’d prob ask for Faksa more than Spezza. Good trade.
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Quoting: BigBeardBurns
Philly can take that, although they’d prob ask for Faksa more than Spezza. Good trade.


Only reason I have the trade to begin with is to dump some of Spezza's contract, instead of eating the buyout cost for two years. I don't know if Philly is going to want to cough up what Faksa would cost. This way they get a good 3C and only give up a backup goalie in return.
21 avr. 2018 à 8 h 51
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Good trades, but I'm worried about that amount of money you're giving to Van Riemsdyk. There's a risk he'd be our next Spezza after a couple of seasons.
21 avr. 2018 à 11 h 6
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Good trades, but I'm worried about that amount of money you're giving to Van Riemsdyk. There's a risk he'd be our next Spezza after a couple of seasons.


The reason I'm fine with the money I'm giving to JVR is because he is 2 years younger than Spezza was when he signed with Dallas. JVR is 28 years old. The Stars would be better off giving him roughly $9M this first season (before Seguin's extension hits) and then finishing the last year of his contract on a $5M contract. It makes him a lot easier to move if he declines like Spezza did this year.

And I don't necessarily pin Spezza's decline solely on him. Spezza's gameplay thrived under an all-out offensive attacking scheme, like he had with Lindy Ruff. His gameplay isn't tailored for Hitchcock's much more defensive scheme, and as you can tell he never really got his footing in Hitch's system. I still think Spezza has some good hockey left in him, but it'll take the right head coach to make it work and even then, he still won't be worth $7.5M
21 avr. 2018 à 13 h 31
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I think the only way you will get Philly responses will be to do it with a Philly roster. From a Stars POV, I'm cool with it. Losing Nyberg is a unfortunate but you can't ship a bad contract for nothing and like you said he has plenty of upside to be a good future piece to any team. Receiving Neuvirth in return is also reasonable, and I think he would have a good season or two in Victory Green. The JVR deal is almost certainly be front heavy to avoid another "Spezza" deal.

The only thing I have to ask is why sign Dennis Seidenberg? Hamhuis and Pateryn had good seasons with Dallas last year, know everyone in the lineup, and would also fill the 7th D void nicely. Otherwise I enjoy reading your scenarios
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I think the only way you will get Philly responses will be to do it with a Philly roster. From a Stars POV, I'm cool with it. Losing Nyberg is a unfortunate but you can't ship a bad contract for nothing and like you said he has plenty of upside to be a good future piece to any team. Receiving Neuvirth in return is also reasonable, and I think he would have a good season or two in Victory Green. The JVR deal is almost certainly be front heavy to avoid another "Spezza" deal.

The only thing I have to ask is why sign Dennis Seidenberg? Hamhuis and Pateryn had good seasons with Dallas last year, know everyone in the lineup, and would also fill the 7th D void nicely. Otherwise I enjoy reading your scenarios


Only reason I have Seidenberg in there is because the only thing he's going to do at this point in his career is be a 7th defenseman. Both Hamhuis and Pateryn have enough left in them to where they are going to be good bottom pairing defensemen somewhere else. The only reason I bring in a veteran for the 7th defenseman role is so that guys like Bayreuther and Heatherington aren't sitting in the press box. I'd much rather have those guys developing in Cedar Park than rotting in a press box at the NHL level. If/When Methot gets hurt, the Stars should call up Heatherington and slot him on to the 3rd pair with Johns, and leave Seidenberg in the press box. He's only to be used in drastic circumstances, and even then can still fill in nicely for a game or two, when needed.
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