Wish there was a 2.5 star option. I don't like the O'Reilly/Risto/Parayko trade. Blues are giving up lots of youth and a first rounder. It breaks down to

Allen+Gunnar for Lehner
Parayko for Ristolainen
Kostin, Thompson, and 1st for O'Reilly in my eyes.

Like I said previously, O'Reilly is a younger version of Stastny and more expensive. Why not just resign Stastny and save a few million bucks in cap space if JT doesn't work out(which it won't work out for the Blues)?

Wish there was a 2.5 star option. I don't like the O'Reilly/Risto/Parayko trade. Blues are giving up lots of youth and a first rounder. It breaks down to

Allen+Gunnar for Lehner
Parayko for Ristolainen
Kostin, Thompson, and 1st for O'Reilly in my eyes.

Like I said previously, O'Reilly is a younger version of Stastny and more expensive. Why not just resign Stastny and save a few million bucks in cap space if JT doesn't work out(which it won't work out for the Blues)?

Wish there was a 2.5 star option. I don't like the O'Reilly/Risto/Parayko trade. Blues are giving up lots of youth and a first rounder. It breaks down to

Allen+Gunnar for Lehner
Parayko for Ristolainen
Kostin, Thompson, and 1st for O'Reilly in my eyes.

Like I said previously, O'Reilly is a younger version of Stastny and more expensive. Why not just resign Stastny and save a few million bucks in cap space if JT doesn't work out(which it won't work out for the Blues)?

Alright so ur saying we should base ROR trades on the Stastny trade? Is that ROR’s value?

Not saying that since he does have term on his side. I'm just saying he's the same player with a higher price tag. Yeah he's younger, but he's not much better.

ROR was an elite possession C to this past season FWIW. Younger with term and a rising cap. I think he’s better than Stastny.

I just don't see it in his game where he's better than Stastny. He's a very good 2c, but Blues don't need another 7+ mil 2nd line center for 4 years. They need a first line center. As good as Schenn looked, I still wouldn't call him a true number 1, but he's the closest they've had in years

ROR is much better then Stastny plus hes younger. He beats him in almost every stat

Wish there was a 2.5 star option. I don't like the O'Reilly/Risto/Parayko trade. Blues are giving up lots of youth and a first rounder. It breaks down to

Allen+Gunnar for Lehner
I have read most STL fans believe Allen is about equal to Lehner, I agree. Is Gunnarsson an add on or a partial salary dump? IMO he is more of a dump. So Sabres adding just a bit too much.

Parayko for Ristolainen.

At 1st I thought this trade was heavily favored to Buffalo, but maybe is a about fair. Both RHD, 23 v 24 YO, Ristolainen scores more but is not real strong in the defensive zone, I do not know about Parayko's defensive capabilities, but I will still call this one about equal.

Kostin, Thompson, and 1st for O'Reilly in my eyes.
I would make this trade from Buffalo point of view. Kostin is 18 yo and playing against full grown men in the AHL and is doing very well, I think he is going to be a top 6 forward, Thompson is 19 YO and needs more time in the AHL to develop. TBH I just want to move O'Reilly and this is a fair offer.

Like I said previously, O'Reilly is a younger version of Stastny and more expensive. Why not just resign Stastny and save a few million bucks in cap space if JT doesn't work out(which it won't work out for the Blues)?

Actually they've put up similar numbers in their careers until Stastny came to St. Louis where he was put in a defense first system instead of the offense driven Avalanche system. Stastny came here in his age 28 season, O'Reilly is entering his age 27/28 season. Since they are similar players with similar stats at this age point, It's reasonable to say O'Reilly will put up similar numbers here. 40-50 points. He's not that much better. It's just like 4 years ago when the Blues signed Stastny to a deal at age 28, except we'd have to give up young assets to receive that number 2 center.

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OK here we definitely disagree, Stastny's best years are way behind him, O'Reilly has been very steady his entire NHL career and I think he will have better years than he has had in Buffalo someplace else.

That's the kicker. Stastny isn't as good as ROR, but if Pauly wants to come back for 3 yrs x 5.5m, that is better value than losing Dunn/Parayko to add O'Reilly.

I just don't see it in his game where he's better than Stastny. He's a very good 2c, but Blues don't need another 7+ mil 2nd line center for 4 years. They need a first line center. As good as Schenn looked, I still wouldn't call him a true number 1, but he's the closest they've had in years

ROR can b a #1 C with his great Two-Way game, and if u retained his contract, he could get u a great value.

He's not as good as ROR at this point in his career. But age 27 Stastny was just like age 27 ROR in terms of numbers. Blues would be getting what they got when they first signed Stastny, but at a higher price point factoring in salary plus assets

If Buffalo would be willing to retain. However; Blues would be getting the same player as when they signed Stastny 4 years ago, but have to give up assets in order to get him unlike when they signed Stastny and just had to sign him off FA

Technically, I think ROR is less in terms of % of cap but yeah, the assets lost in a trade would make it pretty incomparable.

ROR's numbers on a really bad BUF team are expected to be lousy. It's hard to compare the two, but I think if you're saying the expectations we had for Stastny 4 years ago would be about equal to the expectations we'd have for ROR now, I'd agree with that.