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Bouncing back in the PLAYOFF... what do we need?

Créé par: TheDuminator
Équipe: 2017-18 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 4 avr. 2018
Publié: 4 avr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Signs a 2y EXT to Hamhius at same cost.............
Getting PAcc for 2 GREAT POWER LINES and acquiring 2 young GOOD players. Lekho Middle 6 great defensively & Top C Prospect from NCAA NHLready.
Making room at LHD for Heiskanen. High Skill D
Transactions
DAL
  1. Benn, Jordie
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. Pacioretty, Max
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
and 21yo C Jake Evans NCAA (to replace Spezza in 2y)
MTL
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Lindell, Esa
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2nd if Pacc resign with Dallas
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2578 000 000 $76 738 332 $0 $730 000 $1 261 668 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
870 000 $870 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
UFA - 2
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
770 833 $770 833 $ (Bonis de performance97 500 $$98K)
DG
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
725 000 $725 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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4 avr. 2018 à 11 h 48
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I'd say no. Faksa and Lindell are both smart players, and when they are on the ice, good things happen. This is proven by plus/minus statistics, in which these two are the two leading players. Even though Pacioretty is decent, I would not trade those two assets. After our TOP5 of most valuable players (Benn, Seguin, Klingberg, Radulov and Heiskanen), they're just behind them. Way too important to give away.
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I'd say no. Faksa and Lindell are both smart players, and when they are on the ice, good things happen. This is proven by plus/minus statistics, in which these two are the two leading players. Even though Pacioretty is decent, I would not trade those two assets. After our TOP5 of most valuable players (Benn, Seguin, Klingberg, Radulov and Heiskanen), they're just behind them. Way too important to give away.


Dallas will missed the playoff again has they only have one GREAT lines... the others have hard time to find the net... bringing a real top6 will give them a second top scoring line.
Getting TOP 6 30goals in Pacioretty (great with Radu) for Lindell is fair... + Lekhonen (20G Young Middle 6 like Faksa) + New C in Evans (2nd Best C this year in NCAA) for Faksa replacement as Dallas has 3/4C in Spezza- Hanzal... Faksa become spendable for a younger talented C IMO.
4 avr. 2018 à 12 h 6
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Dallas needs to trade Spezza to clear cap and then sign a guy like JVR. No need to dump Lindell and Faksa in the process.
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Dallas needs to trade Spezza to clear cap and then sign a guy like JVR. No need to dump Lindell and Faksa in the process.


Yes, I can see that... but Many teams will be after JVR and Toronto would like to keep him at 6M/6y.
4 avr. 2018 à 12 h 12
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Yes, I can see that... but Many teams will be after JVR and Toronto would like to keep him at 6M/6y.


JVR will get more than $6 mil per and even at $6 mil I don't think TOR can keep him unless they get bargains on the big 3.
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JVR will get more than $6 mil per and even at $6 mil I don't think TOR can keep him unless they get bargains on the big 3.


6-7M range for him... Toronto getting Bozak- Gardiner- Hansey of the book in a year (Matthews, Marner big contracts) should be fine with a Cap around 80-82$M for 2019-2020 season.
Many Tor fans are building teams with JT at 12M$... so I believe JVR at 7M is feasible :-)
4 avr. 2018 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: DomCholette
6-7M range for him... Toronto getting Bozak- Gardiner- Hansey of the book in a year (Matthews, Marner big contracts) should be fine with a Cap around 80-82$M for 2019-2020 season.
Many Tor fans are building teams with JT at 12M$... so I believe JVR at 7M is feasible :-)


And those TOR fans are moving a lot of pieces to do so. Toronto needs to acquire a solid D man and with JVR on the books, that is going to be very hard to do and keep the team in tact.
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4 avr. 2018 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: DomCholette
Dallas will missed the playoff again has they only have one GREAT lines... the others have hard time to find the net... bringing a real top6 will give them a second top scoring line.
Getting TOP 6 30goals in Pacioretty (great with Radu) for Lindell is fair... + Lekhonen (20G Young Middle 6 like Faksa) + New C in Evans (2nd Best C this year in NCAA) for Faksa replacement as Dallas has 3/4C in Spezza- Hanzal... Faksa become spendable for a younger talented C IMO.


Except the goal amounts of both of those players are off. Pacioretty is under 20, and Lehkonen is just above 10. Acquiring them after a bad season is a risk - and it naturally lowers their value.

Stars may get some boost to their offense from this trade - but the amount of minus to their defense is something I don't like at all...
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Except the goal amounts of both of those players are off. Pacioretty is under 20, and Lehkonen is just above 10. Acquiring them after a bad season is a risk - and it naturally lowers their value.

Stars may get some boost to their offense from this trade - but the amount of minus to their defense is something I don't like at all...


I understand your point of view... just trying to get a decent top 6 in Dallas.
Would you accept: Pacioretty + Benn for Lindell + Spezza (Cap Dump and a need for Mtl)?
4 avr. 2018 à 16 h 21
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I understand your point of view... just trying to get a decent top 6 in Dallas.
Would you accept: Pacioretty + Benn for Lindell + Spezza (Cap Dump and a need for Mtl)?


That's much closer... Although Spezza would prevent the deal from happening with to his NMC
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That's much closer... Although Spezza would prevent the deal from happening with to his NMC


Hanzal might say yes :-)
4 avr. 2018 à 17 h 13
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Hanzal might say yes :-)


So it's Pacioretty and Benn for Lindell and Hanzal?

It's really hard to refuse, although I really like Lindell...

Darn it. You've put me in a really hard spot here, mate. laugh
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So it's Pacioretty and Benn for Lindell and Hanzal?

It's really hard to refuse, although I really like Lindell...

Darn it. You've put me in a really hard spot here, mate. laugh


We are desperate to someone playing with Weber... and Hanzal cannot be has bad than Plekanek lol..
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This isn't a terrible scenario, but it's not really needed. Why give up 2 key pieces to the Stars future for production that we can get on the Free Agent market. We have the long term cap space to lock up a guy like JVR so that solves your 2nd line scoring issue; not to mention the fact that we get Nichushkin back next season. Defensively, we don't need Jordie. All he would do is clog an already log-jammed blue line. Lehkonen would be nice, but not a necessity when we've got guys like Gurianov and Hintz ready as soon as next season, and then Caamano and Robertson shortly after that. The only one we don't necessarily have a "replacement" for is Evans out of Notre Dame, but by keeping Faksa we have one of the better 2-way, checking, centers in the game. This also allows us to potentially get Dickinson some time at 2C at some point over the next few years. His skillset does not work on the 4th line, which is where he's played the majority of his NHL career so far.

Like I said, overall this isn't a bad scenario, but there are some better options out there for Dallas that are nearly as costly.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Dallas needs to trade Spezza to clear cap and then sign a guy like JVR. No need to dump Lindell and Faksa in the process.


THANK YOU!! Sure, it's not an awful trade, but there are equal (and better) options available to Dallas through free agency. Why give up Lindell and Faksa for Pacioretty and Lehkonen when they can get very similar production via free agency while keep Faksa and Lindell? This is more of a trade deadline deal...not one that should be made during the offseason.
 
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