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Solving the scoring issues in Calgary

Créé par: Tkachuckyyy
Équipe: 2018-19 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 mars 2018
Publié: 19 mars 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Adding
RW in Ryan O Reilly ----- for ------ 1st round pick in 2020 , TJ Brodie ( Top 4 d man) & Michael Frolik ( Top 6 Winger)

Swapping Buffalos 2018 1st round pick ( Projected Brady Tkachuk ) --- for --- 2019 1st rd pick, 2019 4th rd pick, 2019 7th rd pick, Future Goalie Prospect John Gilles & Future prospect Andrew Mangiapane.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 250 000 $
2950 000 $
31 250 000 $
31 500 000 $
3975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
710 500 000 $
Tkachuk, Brady
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Brouwer, Troy (750 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
1st rounder is 2018
BUF
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Frolík, Michael
  3. Gillies, Jon
  4. Mangiapane, Andrew
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
  7. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (VGK)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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Logo de CAR
2020
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2280 000 000 $67 311 309 $0 $1 357 500 $12 688 691 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 5
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 5
Tkachuk, Brady
925 000 $925 000 $
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 6
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 2
975 000 $975 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
755 833 $755 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 3

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19 mars 2018 à 17 h 47
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There's no reason that Buffalo has to make that trade. Why would they give up their most reliable centre AND a top 4 pick for a bunch of question marks?
And JT gets more than 10.5 if he is a UFA
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19 mars 2018 à 17 h 49
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buffalo gives up the best player and the two best picks. yes that would solve calgary's problem but bury the sabres.
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19 mars 2018 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: PenGoater99
There's no reason that Buffalo has to make that trade. Why would they give up their most reliable centre AND a top 4 pick for a bunch of question marks?
And JT gets more than 10.5 if he is a UFA


you think JT gets more? You think he’s worth more than 2 mill than Stamkos?
19 mars 2018 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: clark
buffalo gives up the best player and the two best picks. yes that would solve calgary's problem but bury the sabres.

They’d only give up 1 pick ( this years)
19 mars 2018 à 17 h 53
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you think JT gets more? You think he’s worth more than 2 mill than Stamkos?


There are teams willing to pay him, I'd be surprised if he gets anything less than 11
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19 mars 2018 à 17 h 57
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There are teams willing to pay him, I'd be surprised if he gets anything less than 11


Thats true, I think he wants to stay In Canada though and Im not sure what his options are if he wants to join a growing contender. Vancouver’s to getting better anytime soon, I don’t think T.O can pay him 11 with their upcoming contracts, same with edmonton and I don’t see why he’d want to sign in ottawa with their mess they got going on lol Maybe montreal?
19 mars 2018 à 17 h 58
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Bad trade for Buffalo. In this trade their are possibly destroying their future (not that they have one) by trading a top 4 pick and a reliable forward who can play all the forward positions. In return they gain a bunch a question marks and 2 first while giving up a first rounder. So really all they get for O'Reilly and THIER first round pick in 2019 is a 2020 1st round pick from and a playoff contender in the Calgary flames.
19 mars 2018 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: cbailey
They’d only give up 1 pick ( this years)


check your trade. it's 2018 and 2019 two firsts
why are you comparing tavares money to stamkos? if i'm stamkos i'm comparing to toews, eichel, koptitar. tavares isn't moving west for 10.5m, even it is the best offer.
19 mars 2018 à 18 h 27
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Calgary has no chance of getting Brady Tkauhuk and that's it, No team is surrendering him to the Flames period.
19 mars 2018 à 18 h 27
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I'll take Monahan and tkachuk for that package thank you very much.
19 mars 2018 à 18 h 44
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Quoting: cbailey
you think JT gets more? You think he’s worth more than 2 mill than Stamkos?


Stamkos' deal lasts eight years. Tavares can only sign for seven unless it's with the Isles. So you have to add an eighth extra to the AAV. Then you adjust for salary cap inflation, by adding about 10% to that. Then you recognize that elite, top ten centers' supply is almost nil, and demand fluctuates wildly based on which team owners want to pay the resulting $80M to hopefully win a Cup, so comparables are irrelevant. So you throw the numbers out the window.

Also, Stamkos re-signed in Tampa, to stay a fan favorite. His contract in no way reflects the market economics of free agency. Irrelevant.

If you want to figure out how much Tavares can sign for, find the team with the most cap space that is Tavares away from winning the Cup next year. Take the amount of cap space they have. Multiply it by one. Express your answer in terms of dollars.
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19 mars 2018 à 18 h 55
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Quoting: Eli
Stamkos' deal lasts eight years. Tavares can only sign for seven unless it's with the Isles. So you have to add an eighth extra to the AAV. Then you adjust for salary cap inflation, by adding about 10% to that. Then you recognize that elite, top ten centers' supply is almost nil, and demand fluctuates wildly based on which team owners want to pay the resulting $80M to hopefully win a Cup, so comparables are irrelevant. So you throw the numbers out the window.

Also, Stamkos re-signed in Tampa, to stay a fan favorite. His contract in no way reflects the market economics of free agency. Irrelevant.

If you want to figure out how much Tavares can sign for, find the team with the most cap space that is Tavares away from winning the Cup next year. Take the amount of cap space they have. Multiply it by one. Express your answer in terms of dollars.


Actually, then add four million to that number, to account for some crazy team trading away its current #1 center and starting goalie for peanuts to create cap space to sign the best free agent the league has seen since... I don't know? It's been a while. I know Daniel Briere and Brad Richards created similar sensations but neither was remotely as good. They had each had one or two good seasons, combined with mostly above average careers. Maybe since Brendan Shanahan or Scott Stevens. Tavares signing with a pretty good team makes them instantly a great team.

Maybe take the bottom three teams in each conference out of contention if you think Tavares prefers to win right away?
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19 mars 2018 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: clark
check your trade. it's 2018 and 2019 two firsts
why are you comparing tavares money to stamkos? if i'm stamkos i'm comparing to toews, eichel, koptitar. tavares isn't moving west for 10.5m, even it is the best offer.


No the trade says additional notes : 1st rd pick is in 2018. Because its the 2018-2019 season I couldn’t choose the 2018 draft. Why does it matter if he moves west? lol
19 mars 2018 à 20 h 26
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Quoting: PenGoater99
There are teams willing to pay him, I'd be surprised if he gets anything less than 11


Yeah I can see him getting somewhere between 10-11 mill
19 mars 2018 à 22 h 3
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Yeah I can see him getting somewhere between 10-11 mill


I don't think this happens, but if they ditch their RFAs, and the cap rises as much as the league said it might, Ottawa has 22M of cap space to add one forward and two defensemen.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/633164

Now, Vegas are in a similar situation, and are in the playoffs, so I'm not sure Ottawa gets those guys for those prices, but I'm just saying, if the salary cap is 82M, there's no real sense in predicting what the best players will go for. It will be a lot, though. Hopefully teams are doing their homework figuring out what each of the top thirty UFAs is worth to their particular club. Otherwise, Vancouver will just get five of them for free again.
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19 mars 2018 à 23 h 42
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No the trade says additional notes : 1st rd pick is in 2018. Because its the 2018-2019 season I couldn’t choose the 2018 draft. Why does it matter if he moves west? lol


Why does it matter? I guess you don't anything about Tavares LOL. Start knowing the person, instead of just jotting down figures and hopes it fits into your cap. Thousands, maybe millions of people across North American turn down jobs because of the location and family concerns. Why would Tavares be any different? It's been well documented why "the west" is unlikely why Tavares wouldn't be leaving "the east"
20 mars 2018 à 3 h 43
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Quoting: clark
Why does it matter? I guess you don't anything about Tavares LOL. Start knowing the person, instead of just jotting down figures and hopes it fits into your cap. Thousands, maybe millions of people across North American turn down jobs because of the location and family concerns. Why would Tavares be any different? It's been well documented why "the west" is unlikely why Tavares wouldn't be leaving "the east"


Why would it be the same? LOL. Explain to me what these well documented concerns are for rich hockey players signing jobs in “the west” are. I mean after all you must “know the person” quite well to understand why he would turn down 70-77 million USD??
20 mars 2018 à 22 h 39
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Why would it be the same? LOL. Explain to me what these well documented concerns are for rich hockey players signing jobs in “the west” are. I mean after all you must “know the person” quite well to understand why he would turn down 70-77 million USD??


Sorry if you if don't understand hockey or people. By the way, what makes you think JT doesn't turn down 70m? Yea he might turn it down from Calgary but will get just as much from another team. FYI there is more than team in the NHL.
21 mars 2018 à 1 h 46
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Sorry if you if don't understand hockey or people. By the way, what makes you think JT doesn't turn down 70m? Yea he might turn it down from Calgary but will get just as much from another team. FYI there is more than team in the NHL.


No i fully understand, i just don't understand your dumbass logic that you cant seem to explain.

You're not making much sense. Never did I say CGY was the only team in the NHL and I agree with you there will be a long list of teams wanting to sign him. Still unsure what that has to do with your logic,opinion,fact, im not sure what you call it, that he would refuse to sign with a team simply because they are in the west despite if it even offers the most $$.
22 mars 2018 à 21 h 21
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No i fully understand, i just don't understand your dumbass logic that you cant seem to explain.

You're not making much sense. Never did I say CGY was the only team in the NHL and I agree with you there will be a long list of teams wanting to sign him. Still unsure what that has to do with your logic,opinion,fact, im not sure what you call it, that he would refuse to sign with a team simply because they are in the west despite if it even offers the most $$.


I don't know where you live cbailey, but tavares is has a "off ice situation" which makes him probably not be super concerned about getting the "best dollar" if it didn't fit his home situation. So keep on making roster and yea, a player fits into your teams cap you can think he signs good for you. I've said the same about Washington's Carlson win Edmonton fans think he will sign with them. For some reasons similar to Tavares, Carlson isn't moving to Western Canada. Hockey players and even folks with regular jobs, turn down more money all the time.
Could I explain to you why Tavares is tied to the East Coast? I could I since you're just so smart ass intellegent you wouldn't wouldn't understand my dumbass logic. As I said the reasons for Tavares to stay East have been made public. If the Flames want to obtain any ex Islanders they should just trade three picks for an 12 point player.
29 mars 2018 à 1 h 10
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Quoting: clark
I don't know where you live cbailey, but tavares is has a "off ice situation" which makes him probably not be super concerned about getting the "best dollar" if it didn't fit his home situation. So keep on making roster and yea, a player fits into your teams cap you can think he signs good for you. I've said the same about Washington's Carlson win Edmonton fans think he will sign with them. For some reasons similar to Tavares, Carlson isn't moving to Western Canada. Hockey players and even folks with regular jobs, turn down more money all the time.
Could I explain to you why Tavares is tied to the East Coast? I could I since you're just so smart ass intellegent you wouldn't wouldn't understand my dumbass logic. As I said the reasons for Tavares to stay East have been made public. If the Flames want to obtain any ex Islanders they should just trade three picks for an 12 point player.


There's 30 seconds of my life ill never get back...
29 mars 2018 à 8 h 29
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There's 30 seconds of my life ill never get back...


thirty seconds, that's not much time, considering have much time you wasted just making the original roster in the first place.
 
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