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CAR-NSH...your opinion?

Créé par: Nik_SH
Équipe: 2018-19 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2018
Publié: 15 mars 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Carolina gets one of the most popular players of NHL. Subban should help with attention to the franchise. Also he is good def. Much better then Faulk.
What do you think about this trade?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
75 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
2850 000 $
74 500 000 $
2765 000 $
3850 000 $
41 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
76 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Bonino, Nick
  2. Smith, Craig (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Subban, P.K.
  4. Trenin, Yakov
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NSH)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NSH
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CGY
2020
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NSH
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
2021
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2378 000 000 $77 449 165 $0 $2 332 500 $550 835 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
5 725 000 $5 725 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 6
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
887 500 $887 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
811 666 $811 666 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
765 000 $765 000 $
DG
UFA

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15 mars 2018 à 10 h 30
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I think Subban’s not leavin Carolina
15 mars 2018 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: BigBeardBurns
I think Subban’s not leavin Carolina


JK! Subban isnt going to b traded by Nashville! He’s awesome there!
15 mars 2018 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: BigBeardBurns
JK! Subban isnt going to b traded by Nashville! He’s awesome there!


Did you think that Shea Weber could leave Nashville?...
That's why such deals can happen, it is NHL, this is David Poile grin
*But I'm not sure about the balance of the exchange, so I ask people's opinion.
15 mars 2018 à 10 h 47
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Quoting: Nik_SH
Did you think that Shea Weber could leave Nashville?...
That's why such deals can happen, it is NHL, this is David Poile grin
*But I'm not sure about the balance of the exchange, so I ask people's opinion.


Nashville wins this trade, it makes no sense for CAR to give up Rask and Teräväinen for Bonino Smith and a pick . Rask and Tera are younger and much better than those two. And then Subban is not that much better than Faulk to outweigh how much better Rask and Tera are than Smith and Bonino.
If CAR trades Faulk it will be for a center. Like a RNH or Galchenyuk or someone like that.
Essentially -

Bonino < Rask by a decent amount
Smith < Tera by a lote
Subban > Faulk by a little
plus Trenin and a 4th...
the 3rds are pointless and wash.
15 mars 2018 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: nikeBauer4411
Nashville wins this trade, it makes no sense for CAR to give up Rask and Teräväinen for Bonino Smith and a pick . Rask and Tera are younger and much better than those two. And then Subban is not that much better than Faulk to outweigh how much better Rask and Tera are than Smith and Bonino.
If CAR trades Faulk it will be for a center. Like a RNH or Galchenyuk or someone like that.
Essentially -

Bonino < Rask by a decent amount
Smith < Tera by a lote
Subban > Faulk by a little
plus Trenin and a 4th...
the 3rds are pointless and wash.


1) Subban > Faulk by a little ----> not a little. Mb medium, but not a little. One of the main reasons for this deal is Subban's incredible popularity. Carolina needs a player like him.
2) Bonino < Rask ----> so yeah, i can accept. I should delete this part of trade...
3) Smith < Tera by a lote ---> yes, but thats why it is part of trade.
Subban+Smith(RETAINED 1m)+4+Trenin(was 2nd round pick)=Faulk+Tera - 100% And it's possible that Nashville will be a loser here. (Thats why i prefer to add Bonino-Rask trade).
It is possible that instead of the fourth, Nashville could give the second round pick. Mb....
15 mars 2018 à 11 h 7
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Weber wasnt going to leave Nashville, but wouldnt u capitalize if someone asked u if u want to trade ur older defensive defenseman for a younger offensive one that fits perfectly with your environment?!
That trade was like Edmonton asking for Crosby for McDavid. The Pens on the other 99.99% of the occasions of a trade offer for Crosby say no, but McDavid’s that other 0.01%. (Just like Nashville had in their opportunity to deal Weber and get Subban).

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Did you think that Shea Weber could leave Nashville?...
That's why such deals can happen, it is NHL, this is David Poile grin
*But I'm not sure about the balance of the exchange, so I ask people's opinion.
15 mars 2018 à 11 h 18
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Quoting: nikeBauer4411
Nashville wins this trade, it makes no sense for CAR to give up Rask and Teräväinen for Bonino Smith and a pick . Rask and Tera are younger and much better than those two. And then Subban is not that much better than Faulk to outweigh how much better Rask and Tera are than Smith and Bonino.
If CAR trades Faulk it will be for a center. Like a RNH or Galchenyuk or someone like that.
Essentially -

Bonino < Rask by a decent amount
Smith < Tera by a lote
Subban > Faulk by a little
plus Trenin and a 4th...
the 3rds are pointless and wash.


What about?:
PK+Smith(1m retained)+4th<->Faulk+Tera+3rd. It is looks balanced.
*And if we want add part-> Bonino-Rask, NSH will add Trenin+2nd 2020. Lorentz, S. also here.
15 mars 2018 à 11 h 38
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Tuevo is as close to off limits as I think you can get on the Canes right now. Tuevo and Aho have formed quite the chemistry and it would be hard to see them trading either one at this point. They are both young Fins who compliment each other well, all they need is a Center who can keep up. Id rather move Faulk elsewhere if it means we have to give up Teuvo. Don't get me wrong, PK would be amazing in red but I dont think the benefit outweighs the risk of letting Tuevo go.
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15 mars 2018 à 13 h 19
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I actually like this trade, think its pretty close to fair value. I just don't think NSH makes this move, or PK signs off on it, and it doesn't really fix the 1C and Goalie issues that the Canes have.
 
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