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PHI 2018 Roster, with CAR/NYI and PIT goalie trades.

Créé par: JSG
Équipe: 2018-19 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2018
Publié: 2 mars 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I have no issues with inter-divisional trades at this point. The Pens may want a proven NHL veteran backup as they should still make solid playoff runs at least for next season. Hurricanes or Islanders have question marks in net and a proven starter with decent numbers.

Regarding Mrazek, the money/term should be relatively accurate, and an AHL backup should be sufficient until Hart gets acclimated and developed for the pro game.

While I don't necessarily agree with the buyout, Lehtera's is included since it seems like a good chance that will happen. At least it opens a roster spot. Given this team, Frost will get pro experience in the AHL before making the jump. It's time to see what Vecchione can do.

We'll see what draft day deals are done if the Flyers do get the Blues 1st rounder. Not guaranteed if they fall out of the playoffs and the lottery ping-pong balls are kind to them. While they will have the cap space, I don't see them making any big UFA splashes for a speedy scorer, but use all picks in a presumably deep draft.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1725 000 $
42 100 000 $
1925 000 $
1990 000 $
2825 000 $
2950 000 $
34 300 000 $
1655 000 $
1825 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1680 000 $
1650 000 $
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PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MIN)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
2018 or 2019 3rd rounder depending on trade timeline.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2278 000 000 $55 620 834 $0 $4 630 000 $22 379 166 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 4
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 2
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
962 500 $962 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
825 000 $825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
749 167 $749 167 $ (Bonis de performance92 500 $$92K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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2 mars 2018 à 16 h 17
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Elliotts hurt so Car passes.
2 mars 2018 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: BigBeardBurns
Elliotts hurt so Car passes.


Dude this isn't what would happen today. This is next year's team meaning this happens either during free agency or likely at draft. It says in trade though "depending on trade timeline"
2 mars 2018 à 16 h 36
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I could be wrong but I believe because of his age or status Frost must be in the NHL or back in the minors. I don't think he can go to the AHL
2 mars 2018 à 16 h 37
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Just wait and watch mrazek before you think he is your saviour in net.
2 mars 2018 à 16 h 39
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Just wait and watch mrazek before you think he is your saviour in net.


Well, everything I have heard from every DET fan was that they basically killed any growth he could have had. A fresh start for a skilled guy could be just what he needs. Also, nobody is calling him a saviour, he is a capable goalie that would be a nice stop gap until Carter Hart takes over.
2 mars 2018 à 16 h 54
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Quoting: Bdinella
I could be wrong but I believe because of his age or status Frost must be in the NHL or back in the minors. I don't think he can go to the AHL


You are correct. He will be AHL ineligible next season, so NHL or back to OHL. That would alter the lineup a bit if he makes the opening day roster, but I still don't think it would lead to any off-season acquisitions.

Quoting: BigBeardBurns
Elliotts hurt so Car passes.


Since Darling lost the starter's job this season, and Ward is a UFA at end of 2017-2018, a healthy Elliott may be an option for the 2018 season, particularly at a reasonable cap hit.

Quoting: Jfstompers
Just wait and watch mrazek before you think he is your saviour in net.


Mrazek is no savior and is not being signed as one. Elliott, Neuvirth, and now Mrazek are all stop-gap measures signed to short-medium contracts until the presumed savior Hart (or Sandstrom) are ready to take over.
3 mars 2018 à 13 h 23
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Why sign John Muse? You currently have 2 NHL goalies as well as Lyon and Carter Hart in the AHL. Muse is just wasted effort.
4 mars 2018 à 11 h 41
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Quoting: thepmofgreece
Why sign John Muse? You currently have 2 NHL goalies as well as Lyon and Carter Hart in the AHL. Muse is just wasted effort.


John Muse was added since he was already signed by the Flyers organization. The roster reflects that signing.
6 mars 2018 à 8 h 35
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John Muse was added since he was already signed by the Flyers organization. The roster reflects that signing.


You re-signed him for the 2018-2019 season. Where will he go? That gives you Mrazek and Stolarz at the NHL. I see you have Alex Lyon signed as well to play in the AHL. I am assuming you are going to put Carter Hart in the AHL as well since he can't go anywhere else. Where will you be putting John Muse? Are we going to have 3 goalies at the AHL level?
6 mars 2018 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: thepmofgreece
You re-signed him for the 2018-2019 season. Where will he go? That gives you Mrazek and Stolarz at the NHL. I see you have Alex Lyon signed as well to play in the AHL. I am assuming you are going to put Carter Hart in the AHL as well since he can't go anywhere else. Where will you be putting John Muse? Are we going to have 3 goalies at the AHL level?


Good question. With the Muse signing, he isn't making that money to just play in the ECHL unless it is a 2-way type contract. I haven't seen any indication that the Flyers would move on from Stolarz just yet, and ditto with Lyon, though poor showings from Lyon as the NHL backup to Mrazek might change that decision. So yeah, still good question and not sure. What are your thoughts?
7 mars 2018 à 8 h 13
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Good question. With the Muse signing, he isn't making that money to just play in the ECHL unless it is a 2-way type contract. I haven't seen any indication that the Flyers would move on from Stolarz just yet, and ditto with Lyon, though poor showings from Lyon as the NHL backup to Mrazek might change that decision. So yeah, still good question and not sure. What are your thoughts?


I think Muse is the casualty. He is older so his window to be successful is closing. Maybe he would agree to sign with Reading if he wants to stay in the system but realistically he will probably sign somewhere else. The more I think about it, the team has to make a decision on the future. They have several options to contemplate:

1) Sign Mrazek (2 or 3 years), move Neuvy and Elliott, and have Stolarz (need to sign him) as NHL backup with Lyon (sign him as well) and Hart in AHL
2) Sign Mrazek, move either Neuvy or Elliott, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in the AHL
3) Let Mrazek walk (you don't lose a 3rd rounder), Have Elliott and Neuvy work the NHL, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in AHL
4) Let Mrazek walk, have Elliott and Neuvy in NHL, let Lyon walk, and have Stolarz and Hart in AHL
5) Let Mrazek walk, trade Neuvy, have Elliott and Stolarz in NHL, and Lyon and Hart in AHL
6) Let Mrazek walk, deal Elliott (who might have more trade value), let Stolarz and Neuvy split NHL time, Lyon and Hart in AHL

I'm sure I'm missing one scenario, but you get the idea. Personally, I don't let Mrazek walk unless I think Hart will be ready with only one year of AHL time. Hart is clearly the future. Don't forget about Sandstrom in the SHL. If I'm Hexy, I do option 1. It gives Hart 2 years of AHL time to get ready to take the reigns and gets back some value for the other two goalies.
7 mars 2018 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: thepmofgreece
I think Muse is the casualty. He is older so his window to be successful is closing. Maybe he would agree to sign with Reading if he wants to stay in the system but realistically he will probably sign somewhere else. The more I think about it, the team has to make a decision on the future. They have several options to contemplate:

1) Sign Mrazek (2 or 3 years), move Neuvy and Elliott, and have Stolarz (need to sign him) as NHL backup with Lyon (sign him as well) and Hart in AHL
2) Sign Mrazek, move either Neuvy or Elliott, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in the AHL
3) Let Mrazek walk (you don't lose a 3rd rounder), Have Elliott and Neuvy work the NHL, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in AHL
4) Let Mrazek walk, have Elliott and Neuvy in NHL, let Lyon walk, and have Stolarz and Hart in AHL
5) Let Mrazek walk, trade Neuvy, have Elliott and Stolarz in NHL, and Lyon and Hart in AHL
6) Let Mrazek walk, deal Elliott (who might have more trade value), let Stolarz and Neuvy split NHL time, Lyon and Hart in AHL

I'm sure I'm missing one scenario, but you get the idea. Personally, I don't let Mrazek walk unless I think Hart will be ready with only one year of AHL time. Hart is clearly the future. Don't forget about Sandstrom in the SHL. If I'm Hexy, I do option 1. It gives Hart 2 years of AHL time to get ready to take the reigns and gets back some value for the other two goalies.


I agree regarding Muse. There is likely a 2-way deal in his contract for AHL/ECHL. I think he might sign elsewhere at the end of 2018-2019, but for now, he is somewhere in the Flyers system.
Scenario 1 is likely if Mrazek plays well down the stretch and into the playoffs, say, winning the first round.
Scenario 5 is likely if Mrazek falters and they stumble into the playoffs and lose the first round in convincing fashion.
Ideally Hart is ready to start the 2019-2020 season, and realistically start the 2020-2021 season. Sandstrom may be a year or two behind Hart, but the number of decent goalies generally isn't a bad problem to have.
7 mars 2018 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: thepmofgreece
I think Muse is the casualty. He is older so his window to be successful is closing. Maybe he would agree to sign with Reading if he wants to stay in the system but realistically he will probably sign somewhere else. The more I think about it, the team has to make a decision on the future. They have several options to contemplate:

1) Sign Mrazek (2 or 3 years), move Neuvy and Elliott, and have Stolarz (need to sign him) as NHL backup with Lyon (sign him as well) and Hart in AHL
2) Sign Mrazek, move either Neuvy or Elliott, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in the AHL
3) Let Mrazek walk (you don't lose a 3rd rounder), Have Elliott and Neuvy work the NHL, let Stolarz walk, and have Lyon and Hart in AHL
4) Let Mrazek walk, have Elliott and Neuvy in NHL, let Lyon walk, and have Stolarz and Hart in AHL
5) Let Mrazek walk, trade Neuvy, have Elliott and Stolarz in NHL, and Lyon and Hart in AHL
6) Let Mrazek walk, deal Elliott (who might have more trade value), let Stolarz and Neuvy split NHL time, Lyon and Hart in AHL

I'm sure I'm missing one scenario, but you get the idea. Personally, I don't let Mrazek walk unless I think Hart will be ready with only one year of AHL time. Hart is clearly the future. Don't forget about Sandstrom in the SHL. If I'm Hexy, I do option 1. It gives Hart 2 years of AHL time to get ready to take the reigns and gets back some value for the other two goalies.


In no way do you let Stolarz walk over Lyon. And why not sign both and use one in a trade?
7 mars 2018 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
In no way do you let Stolarz walk over Lyon. And why not sign both and use one in a trade?


I was just spelling out the options. I agree with what you are saying. I think keeping Mrazek in the fold gets you two good things, a younger goalie who could get hot and a goalie who is looking for a bridge deal. For us, it also allows Hart to get seasoned in the AHL. This is why option 1 (trade Neuvy and Elliott while keeping everyone else) makes the most sense.
 
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