Trading your platoon AHL goalie, your 14th forward that can't crack the lineup at age 24, an AHL depth defensemen and a late first for Tanev is not overpaying. Its underpaying

Pickard is an NHL calibre goalie. When he was with the Avs, he was the starter but it wasn't his fault they were losing they were just BAD! Lol
Leivo is a PP specialist that sure isn't in the lineup but that's because Babcock is stubborn has nothing to do with Leivo.
Rosen is unknown to me. He looked good when he was playing but had a couple brainfarts. He's played better on the Marlies.
The 1st won't be past 20th which is late 1st. Leafs are not contenders yet, Leafs are only in this position cause the Atlantic (beyond Lightning) is just SHOCKINGLY bad.

I don't see the intrigue with Tanev. He's not a make or break cup contending D man. If the Leafs get him it doesn't make them cup contenders.

Although i somewhat agree with you. The trade is still decent. A 1st is a 1st. Pickard has found some success at the NHL level already so what does it matter if he does bad on an AHL team, their AHL team could just be bad defensively and judging how their team needs someone like tanev, thats probably the case. But yes pickard and the 1st is whats enticing for the canucks here.

He started when Varmalov was hurt. He was traded for an AHL depth player and a 6th round pick 4 months ago.
you can't be a power play specialist when you have 10 NHL goals for YOUR CAREER

pickard was traded in OCTOBER for an ahl depth player and a 6th round pick

Do you watch hockey? This guy... Doesnt see the intrigue with tanev. Oh my. Well let me tell you my friend. He can play on both special units. Thats powerplay and penalty kill for people who dont watch hockey. He is also one of the best defensive defenseman in the league. Hes got a great shot. He even trained with stamkos' shot trainer one year too.

although I agree with littlejerry assessment of the leafs in the trade, I also agree with DJSums. Tanev isn't really needed by the Leafs for the price of # 1 pick.

Goalies get the worst return out of any other position. And players with little to no NHL experience get less return compared ones with experience. So because pickard is a goalie with little experience, hes not going to get you much at all. It doesnt mean hes bad. Hes found success in every league hes played, including the NHL which is most important. He was the top rated goalie in his draft too.

thats fair. i was simply responding to the notion that a collection of random AHL players gets you Tanev.

That was also before he became one of the best AHL goalies in the league. He's got value now.
He's got like 10 games under his belt. When he plays he's a good player. Big body and can play the front of the net on PP.

I watch hockey but admittedly not much of Canucks. I've never heard anything about Tanev other then the Canucks want to trade him? But sure that's fine.

Ok where to begin. The Toronto Marlies are likely to set a new record for points in a season, as they stampede through the AHL.
Having Sparks and Pickard, two NHL level goaltenders, has been a huge part of that, as both have been incredible. Pickard has 17 wins in 22 games, a .931 save percentage, and 1.86 GAA! They are both top 3 AHL goalies.
GMs in the league know that. And they know that McIlhenny has been a dynamite backup this season, who is signed cheap next year. The Leafs must be getting calls about Pickard, look at those numbers!
Also it is clear that you guys don't know Leivo and Rosen, but both help the Canucks. Van's own goalie says they ice sorry excuses for NHL players. Leivo and Rosen help Canucks get cheaper next year, and are easily ready to get good in low pressure VanCity minutes.

That's what I mean. Leafs don't want just any RHD they need one that fits their team. Also why would Leafs trade a 1st round pick, especially if a 15-20 overall pick when they aren't gunning for a cup this year???

All are NHL calibre players though... yes they are in the AHL but they don't belong there. But fine, take out Rosen and 1st and replace with Carrick and 2nd.

I don't know all of that, but I do know that the Leafs are incredibly weak at RHD. They realistically have 4 different guys playing the right side who should all be bottom pairing.
Tanev is elite in his own end, which the Leafs sorely need. He is simply much better than: Hainsey, Zaitsev, Carrick, and Polak. This makes Tanev the Leafs #1 RHD, and worth more to them than perhaps some other teams.

Hainsey Zaitsev and polak are good, hainsey is a lefty though but yes i agree with you.

Detroit has no use for Kirby Rychel we will just take your 2018 2nd round pick for Luke Glendening with no retention.

They don't need to become cup contenders this year through trades either. Very unlikely to happen, and trading your future for this year would be dumb like Bergevin.
But this way, for three seasons, they get the elite defensive RHD that they dream of having. Doesn't hurt that he intimidates. They are much better with Hainsey farther down the depth chart. And the team grows into a bona fide powerhouse pretty quickly.
The funny thing about this year is that both Boston and Tampa are beatable. What if you get past them in six or seven tight games? Then you are cup contenders this year.
That is a lot more likely with defensive stalwarts Tanev and Glendening.

That would be fine too. Rychel is included so TML don't creep closer to 50 contracts, it is the kind of thing LouLam would insist on. The 300k retained is not a sticking point.

Good call sums. I would include Carrick, Neilsen and a 2nd.
Canucks need young D and Toronto do not, aside from Liljegren, Dermott, Borgman.

Hainsey IS a lefty, and like Hunwick before him, is playing his wrong side. Because the Leafs are so glaringly lacking a top four RHD!

P.S. Polak is good? If you think so please have him on PITT!
Don't actually though, because I like the Pens.

why do some many alleged hockey followers think tanev is wonderful. ten other teams should glamouring for him then, but they're not

Alledged is the main word