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Kickstart the Rebuild

Créé par: dchill
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 janv. 2018
Publié: 2 janv. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Some trades occur during trade deadline, others happen at the draft. Either way its a fire sale of Habs assets, try to collect as many draft picks and young prospects as possible. Trying to gauge value of some players such as Pacioretty and Weber.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Fayne, Mark
  2. Jones, Caleb
  3. Strome, Ryan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
LAK
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (LAK)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (WSH)
TBL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (FLA)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Potential goalie of the future for Florida, low cost relative to other goaltenders picked up in the past (Talbot, Jones etc.)
5.
MTL
  1. Santini, Steven
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2019 1st round pick is lottery protected, deferred to a 2020 1st rounder if New Jersey misses the playoffs.
NJD
  1. Weber, Shea (1 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Trade made at 2018 NHL draft, after Bergevin has been fired :)
6.
MTL
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Plekanec, Tomas (3 000 000 $ retained)
7.
MTL
  1. Trenin, Yakov
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Forward depth for Nashville's playoff run
NSH
  1. Hagelin, Carl (2 000 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2018
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Logo de FLA
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2019
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Logo de NJD
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Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de MTL
Logo de NJD
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Logo de FLA
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $59 677 499 $0 $425 000 $15 322 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 3
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
912 500 $912 500 $
C
UFA - 1
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 2
725 000 $725 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 062 500 $1 062 500 $
G
UFA - 2
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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2 janv. 2018 à 14 h 59
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I see the plekanec, weber and Lindgren trades to be off on value when considering what Montreal is actually getting back.
2 janv. 2018 à 15 h 7
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As in Montreal is getting back too much considering what they are giving? Or too little?
2 janv. 2018 à 15 h 18
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I'm not sure how the return for Lindgren due to the fact that he is a very good goalie prospect who could steal a starting position but since he is a goalie it's lower than say for a forward, could maybe push for a 2nd. Plekanec alone with 50% retained salary I would say is worth a 2nd or a low 1st to a contending team for what he brings and that plekanec and Byron for Hagelin (cap dump and depth winger at best) and a 2nd + 4th is on the low end of what we could get. I would argue that Byron to say Edmonton or LA or even Tampa would atleast fetch a 2nd by himself. I don't know enough about the players coming back on the patches and weber trade to judge their value as to if it's fair or not. Judging this based off what I've seen other people access values of those players at.
2 janv. 2018 à 15 h 26
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Regarding Plekanec and Byron for a 2nd 4th and 6th, all in different years. Retaining on Hagelin and picking up Trenin in the process.

I think you can easily make that Pittsburgh trade without including Byron. Taking Hagelin isn't worth giving anything else up for, and the 4th isn't interesting enough to justify taking him and flipping him with retention, when you could get a similar return for Byron and skip that step.

I appreciate the idea, but the benefit just isn't there for Montreal.

Plekanec at 50% for a 2nd.
Byron for Trenin.
You might be able to get a low pick or low end prospect added to either deal, but if not, you save that retention slot for a deal that will give you a better return than a 4th and a 6th.

I'd probably keep Lindgren and look for a prospect trade if the plan is to keep Price. You've probably got the value about right, but I think we could ask for a former 2nd round pick instead. If not, keep him and give him more playing time to raise his value until we can maximize the return.
2 janv. 2018 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: ricochetii
Regarding Plekanec and Byron for a 2nd 4th and 6th, all in different years. Retaining on Hagelin and picking up Trenin in the process.

I think you can easily make that Pittsburgh trade without including Byron. Taking Hagelin isn't worth giving anything else up for, and the 4th isn't interesting enough to justify taking him and flipping him with retention, when you could get a similar return for Byron and skip that step.

I appreciate the idea, but the benefit just isn't there for Montreal.

Plekanec at 50% for a 2nd.
Byron for Trenin.
You might be able to get a low pick or low end prospect added to either deal, but if not, you save that retention slot for a deal that will give you a better return than a 4th and a 6th.

I'd probably keep Lindgren and look for a prospect trade if the plan is to keep Price. You've probably got the value about right, but I think we could ask for a former 2nd round pick instead. If not, keep him and give him more playing time to raise his value until we can maximize the return.


I Agree On Lindgren, Montreal should resign him and promise him 25-30 games a year to put pressure on price to perform. He is worth more to Montreal as of right now than any other team.
 
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