SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Leafs Letang

Créé par: Matthews34
Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 25 déc. 2017
Publié: 25 déc. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is a trade that I've seen some Pens and Leafs fans have interest in.

For those Pens fans that still believe Letang is worth any of the Leafs stars (Nylander/Marner) please re-evaluate. For Leafs fans that believe Letang doesn't have value you can do the same :) I believe this deal works for both sides and fills a need.
Transactions
PIT
  1. Bozak, Tyler
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Bozak extends 4.5 x 4
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de SJS
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de ANA
2019
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $68 954 166 $5 370 000 $5 525 000 $6 045 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 3
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 2
612 500 $612 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
25 déc. 2017 à 20 h 27
#1
Hi
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 182
Mentions "j'aime": 5
Mmh Interesting seems reasonable
Matthews34 a aimé ceci.
25 déc. 2017 à 20 h 28
#2
Hi
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 182
Mentions "j'aime": 5
I like it
Matthews34 a aimé ceci.
25 déc. 2017 à 20 h 45
#3
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 60,286
Mentions "j'aime": 23,123
Show the deal in 2019 and the following years when the Leafs might want/need all there cap space for other players. Why are punishing the Pens by imposing a 4 year contract with Bozak?
25 déc. 2017 à 20 h 51
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 15,921
Mentions "j'aime": 6,980
Quoting: palhal
Show the deal in 2019 and the following years when the Leafs might want/need all there cap space for other players. Why are punishing the Pens by imposing a 4 year contract with Bozak?


Why are you so concerned with cap space and paying good players fair value LOL. Letang is absolutely worth 7.25 million. If his contract was up, he would get even more. Leafs would DIE to have him. He would be the best D they’ve had since I’ve been Alive. Smart GMSs find a way to manage cap space when they have star players. Ex: don’t pay Marleau over 6 million. Don’t pay Martin over 2 million. Pens have some MASSIVE contracts yet they were still able to win back to back cups due to players on great value terms, and ELCS. That’s how you win championships. Pay your stars, and find value in your supporting cast. Bonnino was argubaly one of the best 3Cs in the NHL that made 2 million, pens found value in ELCS with sheery, rust, and guzental. Schultz made about 2 million last year and was top 10 in Norris votes. The list goes on. Pay your Stars the big bucks, and find value in supporting casts
25 déc. 2017 à 21 h 3
#5
Lafreniere
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2017
Messages: 1,941
Mentions "j'aime": 305
Adam Larsson got Taylor Hall . . .

If Letang can’t get more than Bozak than GMJR should be fired on the spot.
25 déc. 2017 à 21 h 31
#6
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 60,286
Mentions "j'aime": 23,123
Quoting: mhockey91
Why are you so concerned with cap space and paying good players fair value LOL. Letang is absolutely worth 7.25 million. If his contract was up, he would get even more. Leafs would DIE to have him. He would be the best D they’ve had since I’ve been Alive. Smart GMSs find a way to manage cap space when they have star players. Ex: don’t pay Marleau over 6 million. Don’t pay Martin over 2 million. Pens have some MASSIVE contracts yet they were still able to win back to back cups due to players on great value terms, and ELCS. That’s how you win championships. Pay your stars, and find value in your supporting cast. Bonnino was argubaly one of the best 3Cs in the NHL that made 2 million, pens found value in ELCS with sheery, rust, and guzental. Schultz made about 2 million last year and was top 10 in Norris votes. The list goes on. Pay your Stars the big bucks, and find value in supporting casts


Thanks for proving my point. Fact is the Leaf do have Marleau on a contract at 6.25m, or Martin at 2.5m and paying retention on Kessel, and you're silly tirade about not paying them is meaningless right now. And while the Pens managed to find excellent value of course in Crosby and Malkin, the Leafs may forced to pay Matthews 11m a year, which is the new going rate. So it really doesn't matter if Letang is worth 7.25m, the fact is as I suggested, the Leafs may not be able to fit him under the cap in 2019/20.
25 déc. 2017 à 22 h 7
#7
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2016
Messages: 429
Mentions "j'aime": 99
Quoting: palhal
Show the deal in 2019 and the following years when the Leafs might want/need all there cap space for other players. Why are punishing the Pens by imposing a 4 year contract with Bozak?


The contract can be negotiated but I've seen constant desire from Pens fans to have him extended if he was to be traded.. So that's for them. If they don't want him signed that's fine.


Quoting: ShafferPens
Adam Larsson got Taylor Hall . . .

If Letang can’t get more than Bozak than GMJR should be fired on the spot.


The Larsson/Hall deal appeared to be an outlier of a deal. Vatanen was just traded for Henrique, which is market value, so I think we could both bring in trades that suit our point but it's just best to say you don't need to heavily overpay to get a defenseman.

Also you appear to be leaving Gardiner out of your assessment. Bozak/Gardiner is a good package that fits the needs of the Pens roster. They get the perfect 3C locked up, and replace Letang with a lite version of him, aka Gardiner.



Quoting: palhal
Thanks for proving my point. Fact is the Leaf do have Marleau on a contract at 6.25m, or Martin at 2.5m and paying retention on Kessel, and you're silly tirade about not paying them is meaningless right now. And while the Pens managed to find excellent value of course in Crosby and Malkin, the Leafs may forced to pay Matthews 11m a year, which is the new going rate. So it really doesn't matter if Letang is worth 7.25m, the fact is as I suggested, the Leafs may not be able to fit him under the cap in 2019/20.


Well.. I agree as a Leafs fan the contract is tough to swallow.. And I'm not even sure I would do the above deal, lol, but it makes sense for both sides. I see lots of posters on here giving Gardiner 5.5/6+ million. So there's most of your cap space there smile

And this is the probably unrealistic way to look at it.. But with Letang's poor injury history and the Leafs sneaky LTIR tendencies they may be able to throw him on there down the road.. But I don't want to factor in that as a possibility. I think the cap would work.
25 déc. 2017 à 22 h 20
#8
Lafreniere
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2017
Messages: 1,941
Mentions "j'aime": 305
Quoting: Matthews34
The contract can be negotiated but I've seen constant desire from Pens fans to have him extended if he was to be traded.. So that's for them. If they don't want him signed that's fine.




The Larsson/Hall deal appeared to be an outlier of a deal. Vatanen was just traded for Henrique, which is market value, so I think we could both bring in trades that suit our point but it's just best to say you don't need to heavily overpay to get a defenseman.

Also you appear to be leaving Gardiner out of your assessment. Bozak/Gardiner is a good package that fits the needs of the Pens roster. They get the perfect 3C locked up, and replace Letang with a lite version of him, aka Gardiner.





Well.. I agree as a Leafs fan the contract is tough to swallow.. And I'm not even sure I would do the above deal, lol, but it makes sense for both sides. I see lots of posters on here giving Gardiner 5.5/6+ million. So there's most of your cap space there smile

And this is the probably unrealistic way to look at it.. But with Letang's poor injury history and the Leafs sneaky LTIR tendencies they may be able to throw him on there down the road.. But I don't want to factor in that as a possibility. I think the cap would work.

The Pens would like a RD back in a Letang trade. They’d have Maatta, Dumoulin, and Gardiner on LD and Schultz plus 2 of Ruhwedel, Oleksiak, Cole, and Hunwick on RD.
25 déc. 2017 à 23 h 17
#9
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 60,286
Mentions "j'aime": 23,123
Matthews34. Well anyone that wants to give Gardiner 5.5m or more has misjudged the salary cap, and certainly Gardiner's playing value. Leafs can't even afford to offer Bozak or JVR long term contracts this year IMO. Performance bonuses for this year and next year plus Horton's contract have to included, if the Leafs want to be able to maximum cap in 209/20 when then might need all the cap available.
Leafs aren't winning the Cup this year or next year even with Letang. In summer of 2019, there might be Karlsson, Doughty, OEL, McDonagh and other Dmen available as UFAs Dmen, That would be logical time to see how the team lineup is, and see how much cap there is. I really don't know why there is so much talk about Letang getting traded. For the Pens to repeat, you would think he is needed in Pittsburg.
26 déc. 2017 à 1 h 45
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 15,921
Mentions "j'aime": 6,980
Quoting: palhal
Matthews34. Well anyone that wants to give Gardiner 5.5m or more has misjudged the salary cap, and certainly Gardiner's playing value. Leafs can't even afford to offer Bozak or JVR long term contracts this year IMO. Performance bonuses for this year and next year plus Horton's contract have to included, if the Leafs want to be able to maximum cap in 209/20 when then might need all the cap available.
Leafs aren't winning the Cup this year or next year even with Letang. In summer of 2019, there might be Karlsson, Doughty, OEL, McDonagh and other Dmen available as UFAs Dmen, That would be logical time to see how the team lineup is, and see how much cap there is. I really don't know why there is so much talk about Letang getting traded. For the Pens to repeat, you would think he is needed in Pittsburg.


Pens are not trading Letang but if he were to become available leafs would be all over him. They would find a way to make salary work.
26 déc. 2017 à 9 h 5
#11
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2016
Messages: 33,053
Mentions "j'aime": 8,999
Bozak is already making $4.2 million no way he signs for only $300,000 to $4.5 million i doubt he takes any thing less then 5 years $25 million.
26 déc. 2017 à 9 h 20
#12
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 60,286
Mentions "j'aime": 23,123
Quoting: Larkinisking
Bozak is already making $4.2 million no way he signs for only $300,000 to $4.5 million i doubt he takes any thing less then 5 years $25 million.


Maybe the Wings will sign him, just like the Neilsen deal. Right now, I wouldn't sign Bozak to more than a 3 year deal. Total deal might just be 12m at most.
26 déc. 2017 à 9 h 24
#13
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2016
Messages: 33,053
Mentions "j'aime": 8,999
Quoting: palhal
Maybe the Wings will sign him, just like the Neilsen deal. Right now, I wouldn't sign Bozak to more than a 3 year deal. Total deal might just be 12m at most.


You're probably right Bozak is the kind of players that probably could get paid less 3 years $12 million for a #3C is pretty fair if we didn't have Helm and possibly Rasmussen coming up i could see Detroit making a pitch for Bozak but i doubt it happens Holland will be looking at expensive D like maybe John Carlson.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage