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MTL fans and Barzal. Just read:

Créé par: joshelkin
Équipe: 2017-18 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2017
Publié: 6 déc. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I understand the pipe dream, but the reality is that Barzal is one of the true few untouchable players in this league right now. Here is why he would not be involved in any trade that I've seen on Armchair GM recently.

1) Patches essentially has 1.5 years left on his contract and will command close to $7M AAV. Whereas Barzal is on year 1 of his ELC and is controllable at a lessor cost for longer.
2) Patches is on pace for 45 points this season. Barzal? 78.
3) The Islanders are thin at Center after JT, this makes us considerably worse at the position. Having Barzal behind JT for another half decade plus is a huge talking point to 91 re-signing.
4) Age. Barzal is a full 10 years younger than Patches.
5) The Isles don’t need Lindgren. We have our own stud goalie prospect(s) who are arriving soon. Linus Soderstrom was loaned to the SHL but he is signed and wants to come over. Ilya Sorokin is another story, but there is still a chance he plays here as well.
6) The 1st is irrelvant at the moment. We have 2 already and if anything need to use that currency towards a legit Top-4 and/or goalie with immense playoff experience like Rask or Crawford. (I realize this sounds contradictory to my goalie comment, but these are legit names that make a difference today versus a prospect a year or two away)

I’m not saying I wouldn’t trade for Patches. But it would not include Barzal in any package. Nelson/1st/Dal Colle is much more realistic.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2475 000 000 $69 917 499 $0 $1 325 000 $5 082 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
C, AD
UFA - 3
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, C
UFA - 2
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 4
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
4 187 500 $4 187 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
612 500 $612 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 3
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
625 000 $625 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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6 déc. 2017 à 15 h 51
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Well said, I agree with you. Also that value for Pacioretty is pretty good.
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NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE WE DONT WANT JOHN TAVARES TO STAY THERE!
6 déc. 2017 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: nikeBauer4411
Well said, I agree with you. Also that value for Pacioretty is pretty good.


I don't disagree.. Isl wouldn't trade Barzal ever! but If you have a asset like Pacc you need to go high or stay home!
Isl have already a problem next year in Tavares (11M), Bailey (7M) & Nelson (5M) $ signature... they would need to trade some very shortly...
Nelson, Del Colle & a 1st seems fair!
6 déc. 2017 à 16 h 28
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Well said, I agree with you. Also that value for Pacioretty is pretty good.


I don't disagree.. Isl wouldn't trade Barzal ever! but If you have a asset like Pacc you need to go high or stay home!
Isl have already a problem next year in Tavares (11M), Bailey (7M) & Nelson (5M) $ signature... they would need to trade some very shortly...
Nelson, Del Colle & a 1st seems fair!


You're about $1M high on every contract above, plus I don't think Nelson is going to be re-signed (traded before then). But I see what you're saying
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I don't disagree.. Isl wouldn't trade Barzal ever! but If you have a asset like Pacc you need to go high or stay home!
Isl have already a problem next year in Tavares (11M), Bailey (7M) & Nelson (5M) $ signature... they would need to trade some very shortly...
Nelson, Del Colle & a 1st seems fair!


You're about $1M high on every contract above, plus I don't think Nelson is going to be re-signed (traded before then). But I see what you're saying


Maybe but not too far:
Tavares: 8y/11M$ (rumors are between 10-12M/y)
Bailey: this year with 30G & 60pts; he will get at least 6M and probably 7M to stay there!
Nelson- 45-50pts who could play Center will get 4M and probably 5!
 
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