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Another Laffy to MTL ACGM

Créé par: V1NnY2
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2023
Publié: 11 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I know the likelihood of something like this to happen is probably zero, but it’s still interesting to see what could be done to make it make sense for both teams
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 750 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  3. Mackey, Connor
Détails additionnels:
Goodrow needs a fresh start and is more a cap casualty in this trade than anything else.
Laffy is still unproven in the NHL but didn’t really have a chance yet also. MTL seems like a better place for him in terms of opportunity. He’s obviously the player with the most untapped potential in this trade, but NYR get good value for him: a potential top4 LHD, a middle 6 winger with top 6 upside, top 6 power forward, a B prospect and a first round pick.
Mackey is basically a throw in to even out contracts and roster spots.
NYR
  1. Anderson, Josh (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
  4. Ylönen, Jesse
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Harris: could be a quality top 4 LHD for many years for NYR. He can already earn quality minutes with a reasonable 1.4M$ cap hit. Would be a great insurance policy if NYR can’t re-sign Lindgren.
Harvey-Pinard: 14 G in 34 G last year is definitely not sustainable for him, but it clearly shows he has a lot of upside and will be very affordable for the next two years at 1.1 M$. Middle 6 forward with lots of upside (has always performed when given an opportunity.
Anderson: a true power forward with blazing speed. Can score 20-25 G if used properly and with the retention for 4 years, his cap hit becomes more than reasonable.
Ylonen: could be a wild card in this trade. NYR has very limited depth (both in NHL and in their system in general) at RW.
The first round pick would be conditional: the lowest of their 2 firsts. However, if both firsts picks are in the top 10, it becomes a 2026 unprotected first. If MTL trades one of the two 2025 picks, the other 2025 pick becomes unprotected.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $74 032 083 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $9 467 917 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
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950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 3
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885 000 $885 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, C
RFA - 3

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11 août 2023 à 10 h 32
#1
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Off the bat this trade won't work cause Goodrow probably has all of Canada on his 15 team NTC.
Let's say he waives though. I don't like this trade from the Rangers' prospective. The value is there but none of the pieces you're sending are exciting. It's just a 1st + a lot of B prospects + a middle 6 forward who I would take Laf over. Rangers are trying to win a cup now and this won't make them better. Laf has been disappointing so far yes, but he's still put up about half a point per game in the NHL and the Rangers still view his ceiling as very high. The prospects you send over don't seem close to that ceiling, most of them maxing out as middle 6 forwards and bottom 4 dmen. Harvey-Pinard is interesting but he's also already 24.

If I were Drury I'd much rather see a trade with one A prospect and a 1st.
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11 août 2023 à 10 h 39
#2
Sennecke is a gem
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That is a VERY generous offer for Laffy. Don’t know about that one…
11 août 2023 à 10 h 42
#3
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
Off the bat this trade won't work cause Goodrow probably has all of Canada on his 15 team NTC.
Let's say he waives though. I don't like this trade from the Rangers' prospective. The value is there but none of the pieces you're sending are exciting. It's just a 1st + a lot of B prospects + a middle 6 forward who I would take Laf over. Rangers are trying to win a cup now and this won't make them better. Laf has been disappointing so far yes, but he's still put up about half a point per game in the NHL and the Rangers still view his ceiling as very high. The prospects you send over don't seem close to that ceiling, most of them maxing out as middle 6 forwards and bottom 4 dmen. Harvey-Pinard is interesting but he's also already 24.

If I were Drury I'd much rather see a trade with one A prospect and a 1st.


The thing I would disagree with what you said is “this trade won’t make them better”.

Anderson is an upgrade over Goodrow
Harris is significantly better than Mackey
Harvey-Pinard produced more than Laffy in limited NHL time (although very unlikely he keeps this pace as I mentioned). Obviously Laffy has more value and upside but you get my point.

From my perspective, NYR get better in the short term with a much deeper lineup (plus add a B prospect in Ylonen and a first that could be top-15).

Adding a top prospect and a first does not help them in the short term so I think the only kind of deal that makes sense for NYR is something like that: quality depth players at very reasonable cap hits (Tampa Bay style trade).
11 août 2023 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
Off the bat this trade won't work cause Goodrow probably has all of Canada on his 15 team NTC.
Let's say he waives though. I don't like this trade from the Rangers' prospective. The value is there but none of the pieces you're sending are exciting. It's just a 1st + a lot of B prospects + a middle 6 forward who I would take Laf over. Rangers are trying to win a cup now and this won't make them better. Laf has been disappointing so far yes, but he's still put up about half a point per game in the NHL and the Rangers still view his ceiling as very high. The prospects you send over don't seem close to that ceiling, most of them maxing out as middle 6 forwards and bottom 4 dmen. Harvey-Pinard is interesting but he's also already 24.

If I were Drury I'd much rather see a trade with one A prospect and a 1st.


Is Kenny Holland in NY now? Giving bottom 6 forwards NTCs is his specialty.
11 août 2023 à 11 h 4
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Quoting: V1NnY2
The thing I would disagree with what you said is “this trade won’t make them better”.

Anderson is an upgrade over Goodrow
Harris is significantly better than Mackey
Harvey-Pinard produced more than Laffy in limited NHL time (although very unlikely he keeps this pace as I mentioned). Obviously Laffy has more value and upside but you get my point.

From my perspective, NYR get better in the short term with a much deeper lineup (plus add a B prospect in Ylonen and a first that could be top-15).

Adding a top prospect and a first does not help them in the short term so I think the only kind of deal that makes sense for NYR is something like that: quality depth players at very reasonable cap hits (Tampa Bay style trade).


Firstly Mackie is nyr depth dman not starting so Harris is not really a need.
Next Anderson is overpaid and frankly who will have a better season next year Laffy or Anderson. You mention that Anderson is better than goodrow but that's not the player he's replacing lol.
As mentioned in many agms before and here as well nyr aren't trading Laffy for a return that isn't a homerun of a return and this is more of a ground out.
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