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Trade Simmonds/Voracek now

Créé par: jeplaza14
Équipe: 2017-18 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2017
Publié: 25 juill. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I've heard the argument be maid by more than a few people. They want to wait until the end of the season to trade him to see where the team is. With Provorov and Konecny up for extensions in two years and Patrick eligible for an extension then too, it seems that everybody wants to move him because this team may not be SCF contenders by then and we don't want to give him term at age 31. From that standpoint, it makes sense. I don't believe it personally, but i'll humor it.

If you do trade him and want max value (at least for Simmonds) you move them now. Think about the haul (at the time) that VAN got for Kesler. or what the Isles just got for Hamonic. Contending teams can have him for two playoff runs on a relatively inexpensive deal, that would bring in a better haul than what they got for Brayden Schenn.

Like I said, I'm personally of the opinion that you hold onto him and see where they are at. But I'll play along just for fun.
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Steel, Sam
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
3rd round pick becomes a 2nd if they reach the WCF.
3rd round pick becomes a 1st if they reach the SCF
ANA
  1. Simmonds, Wayne
2.
PHI
  1. Ellis, Ryan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Dante Fabbro
NSH
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (PHI)
3.
PHI
  1. Wilson, Colin
COL
  1. MacDonald, Andrew
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (PHI)
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $57 480 725 $1 062 500 $4 425 000 $17 519 275 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Lindblom, Oskar
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 3
Giroux, Claude
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Konecny, Travis
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Weal, Jordan
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Patrick, Nolan
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 3
Filppula, Valtteri
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Raffl, Michael
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 5
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Wilson, Colin
3 937 500 $3 937 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott
962 500 $962 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Read, Matt
3 625 000 $3 625 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Leier, Taylor
806 558 $806 558 $
AG
UFA - 1
Lehterä, Jori
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Provorov, Ivan
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
Ellis, Ryan
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Elliott, Brian
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Morin, Samuel
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG, AG
UFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Neuvirth, Michal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Hägg, Robert
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Gudas, Radko
2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Manning, Brandon
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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25 juill. 2017 à 12 h 30
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If we move Simmonds, I want a top prospect and 2 firsts coming back our way (Kaprizov/2019 1st/2020 1st)
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25 juill. 2017 à 12 h 33
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jeplaza14
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If we move Simmonds, I want a top prospect and 2 firsts coming back our way (Kaprizov/2019 1st/2020 1st)


Sam Steel, by all accounts is one of the top forward prospects in the Ducks system. The reason I included the conditions on the 3rd round pick is because we aren't taking a bad contract back like we did with Schenn
25 juill. 2017 à 12 h 36
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Sam Steel, by all accounts is one of the top forward prospects in the Ducks system. The reason I included the conditions on the 3rd round pick is because we aren't taking a bad contract back like we did with Schenn


yeah he's a good prospect but I'd take someone like Kaprizov, Kyrou, etc over him. Personally, I think Rubtsov is a better prospect than Steel. I completely disagree with the NSH deal. I like Fabbro a lot but what's the point of getting Ellis who is a UFA in two years? Why not try for Kamenev, Fabbro, pick, and cap dump or something like that? We don't need Ellis if we are selling off two of our best forwards it's pointless.
25 juill. 2017 à 12 h 37
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If we move Simmonds, I want a top prospect and 2 firsts coming back our way (Kaprizov/2019 1st/2020 1st)


Sam Steel, by all accounts is one of the top forward prospects in the Ducks system. The reason I included the conditions on the 3rd round pick is because we aren't taking a bad contract back like we did with Schenn


But I still feel that we can get a top 10 prospect in the NHL, someone like Kaprizov, Keller, etc. instead of Sam Steel, even though I like his game. I think that if the Wild wan to contend, they moved a 1st + pieces for Hanzel, why wouldn't they move Kaapriozv and late 1sts for a jack of all trades with Simmonds
25 juill. 2017 à 12 h 46
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Sam Steel, by all accounts is one of the top forward prospects in the Ducks system. The reason I included the conditions on the 3rd round pick is because we aren't taking a bad contract back like we did with Schenn


yeah he's a good prospect but I'd take someone like Kaprizov, Kyrou, etc over him. Personally, I think Rubtsov is a better prospect than Steel. I completely disagree with the NSH deal. I like Fabbro a lot but what's the point of getting Ellis who is a UFA in two years? Why not try for Kamenev, Fabbro, pick, and cap dump or something like that? We don't need Ellis if we are selling off two of our best forwards it's pointless.


If its NSH, there would have to be some money coming back. There could have been a Craig Smith coming back instead and then you add a Kamenev or a Fiala to the deal or another 1st. There's a lot of different moves that could be made. I was also thinking of Voracek to the Wild and I'd probably do Kaprozov, Niederreiter, and a 1st in '19.
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