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Créé par: Eddy
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 9 déc. 2020
Publié: 9 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Retained salary is by NJD. Fleury is 100% off Vegas books.
2.
NJD
  1. Riikola, Juuso
  2. Sceviour, Colton
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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Logo de PIT
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2022
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 391 842 $0 $850 000 $5 108 158 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
0 $0 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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9 déc. 2020 à 17 h 31
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So, Fleury ($3.5Mx2), Zacha, for McCann, DeSmith, Sceviour, Riikola, 2nd?

How'bout no?

Zacha is not that great of a C. Good defensively, but HORRIBLE at faceoff and not physical. Also, DeSmith might be better on the ice vs Fleury. There is zero reason for Pittsburgh to include McCann.

Fleury ($3.5Mx2), Zacha, for DeSmith, Sceviour, Riikola
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9 déc. 2020 à 18 h 57
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Quoting: Yojimbo
So, Fleury ($3.5Mx2), Zacha, for McCann, DeSmith, Sceviour, Riikola, 2nd?

How'bout no?

Zacha is not that great of a C. Good defensively, but HORRIBLE at faceoff and not physical. Also, DeSmith might be better on the ice vs Fleury. There is zero reason for Pittsburgh to include McCann.

Fleury ($3.5Mx2), Zacha, for DeSmith, Sceviour, Riikola


The other teams would not agree to give Pitt Fleury, No. 6 overall pick Zacha and cap space for Desmith, Sceviour and Riikola. Other teams would easily beat that offer. Zacha is a great player who has not came close to reaching his potential. Not many young players are good at faceoffs. Lets say he gets marginally better. Great. You aren`t getting Zacha to win faceoffs. You have Sidney Crosby and Teddy Blueger/Jankowski for that. Pens need a defensively reliable 3rd line center with scoring punch to provide depth scoring. Pens are successful when they have a good 3rd line that can score. Pens are not successful when their bottom two lines are offensive blackholes. Pens have enough defensive minded/physical forwards (Tanev, Jankowski, Aston-Reese, Rust, Blueger).

I would rather have Granlund than McCann.

No, Desmith is not even close to Fleury, even at 36. That`s absurd. Plus Fleury`s impact on teammates alone provides value. Great mentor for Jarry too.

In a real world scenario this is what the trade would have to look like in order to make sense for everyone.

Pens perspective: Solid 1B goalie. Huge boost to team experience, morale and overall team culture. Cap space to sign Granlund, Haula, Chara, Kovalchuk, Perry etc...2nd round pick given up means nothing as they are all in this year and next.

Vegas: Clears cap space without moving one of top players. Gets decent backup. Loses 1st rounder but this team is a contender so they are willing to do so. Gets good center/wing to compliment middle 6.

Devils: Cap space not an issue. Fleury contract will expire as Jack Hughes contract does. In return they get two depth pieces and a 1st and 2nd rounder. They give up Zacha, although a very good player who has yet to reach his potential he is somewhat expendable because NJD have a lot of centers.

This deal works. Could there be small tweaks in order to get it done? Yes but the overall framework makes sense and the value to each team is about on par. You have to consider that the deal also involves Granlund (or whoever else they decide to sign). So giving up the amount that Pitt did in these deals doesn`t matter nearly as much as if they weren`t able to sign anyone.
9 déc. 2020 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: Eddy
The other teams would not agree to give Pitt Fleury, No. 6 overall pick Zacha and cap space for Desmith, Sceviour and Riikola. Other teams would easily beat that offer. Zacha is a great player who has not came close to reaching his potential. Not many young players are good at faceoffs. Lets say he gets marginally better. Great. You aren`t getting Zacha to win faceoffs. You have Sidney Crosby and Teddy Blueger/Jankowski for that. Pens need a defensively reliable 3rd line center with scoring punch to provide depth scoring. Pens are successful when they have a good 3rd line that can score. Pens are not successful when their bottom two lines are offensive blackholes. Pens have enough defensive minded/physical forwards (Tanev, Jankowski, Aston-Reese, Rust, Blueger).

I would rather have Granlund than McCann.

No, Desmith is not even close to Fleury, even at 36. That`s absurd. Plus Fleury`s impact on teammates alone provides value. Great mentor for Jarry too.

In a real world scenario this is what the trade would have to look like in order to make sense for everyone.

Pens perspective: Solid 1B goalie. Huge boost to team experience, morale and overall team culture. Cap space to sign Granlund, Haula, Chara, Kovalchuk, Perry etc...2nd round pick given up means nothing as they are all in this year and next.

Vegas: Clears cap space without moving one of top players. Gets decent backup. Loses 1st rounder but this team is a contender so they are willing to do so. Gets good center/wing to compliment middle 6.

Devils: Cap space not an issue. Fleury contract will expire as Jack Hughes contract does. In return they get two depth pieces and a 1st and 2nd rounder. They give up Zacha, although a very good player who has yet to reach his potential he is somewhat expendable because NJD have a lot of centers.

This deal works. Could there be small tweaks in order to get it done? Yes but the overall framework makes sense and the value to each team is about on par. You have to consider that the deal also involves Granlund (or whoever else they decide to sign). So giving up the amount that Pitt did in these deals doesn`t matter nearly as much as if they weren`t able to sign anyone. The only team I see saying no to this is NJD because they may want to try and sign someone and they may want to hold on to Zacha.
9 déc. 2020 à 20 h 54
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One of the Penguins roster advantages is having Jarry and DeSmith not taking a huge part of the salary cap. And if Jarry plays even close to last year, it’s a steal. And DeSmith is a NHL capable back-up. He’s done it. He’s has NHL experience and good numbers. He’s was a great AHL goalie. We could find other areas of need to take up cap space IMO. If Jarry doesn’t play well, we are F-ed anyways. They are gonna let him play. And I like Zacha, but he’s not the type of 3C the Pens need or want. They have to big bigger hitters and better two-way players than Zacha is. And I would rather have McCann. And Sid/Geno lines can score. With the 3rd chipping in some.
9 déc. 2020 à 20 h 57
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Quoting: Eddy
The other teams would not agree to give Pitt Fleury, No. 6 overall pick Zacha and cap space for Desmith, Sceviour and Riikola. Other teams would easily beat that offer. Zacha is a great player who has not came close to reaching his potential. Not many young players are good at faceoffs. Lets say he gets marginally better. Great. You aren`t getting Zacha to win faceoffs. You have Sidney Crosby and Teddy Blueger/Jankowski for that. Pens need a defensively reliable 3rd line center with scoring punch to provide depth scoring. Pens are successful when they have a good 3rd line that can score. Pens are not successful when their bottom two lines are offensive blackholes. Pens have enough defensive minded/physical forwards (Tanev, Jankowski, Aston-Reese, Rust, Blueger).

I would rather have Granlund than McCann.

No, Desmith is not even close to Fleury, even at 36. That`s absurd. Plus Fleury`s impact on teammates alone provides value. Great mentor for Jarry too.

In a real world scenario this is what the trade would have to look like in order to make sense for everyone.

Pens perspective: Solid 1B goalie. Huge boost to team experience, morale and overall team culture. Cap space to sign Granlund, Haula, Chara, Kovalchuk, Perry etc...2nd round pick given up means nothing as they are all in this year and next.

Vegas: Clears cap space without moving one of top players. Gets decent backup. Loses 1st rounder but this team is a contender so they are willing to do so. Gets good center/wing to compliment middle 6.

Devils: Cap space not an issue. Fleury contract will expire as Jack Hughes contract does. In return they get two depth pieces and a 1st and 2nd rounder. They give up Zacha, although a very good player who has yet to reach his potential he is somewhat expendable because NJD have a lot of centers.

This deal works. Could there be small tweaks in order to get it done? Yes but the overall framework makes sense and the value to each team is about on par. You have to consider that the deal also involves Granlund (or whoever else they decide to sign). So giving up the amount that Pitt did in these deals doesn`t matter nearly as much as if they weren`t able to sign anyone.


Saying Fleury is still a 1B is just flat out homerism looking back on him cracking jokes and smiling.

Adding McCann to this trade has literally ZERO to do with getting Granlund.

"Zacha is a great player who has not came close to reaching his potential" um... yep. Being a top 6 pick is irrelevant when you don't live up to it.

The deal that I suggested is still overpay by the Pens, done solely for homers that want Fleury back, at three times the cap hit of DeSmith.
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