Too Much Quantity

Hard no from the Leafs. Kap is worth more than a 2nd rounder to the Leafs. Gudas is over priced and a bottom pair defenceman and Lyon isn't an upgrade over Sparks for the backup position. Its a terrible trade and before you say, well you'll lose him to an offer sheet, to that I'll say Dubas will move him for a far better return than this before that happens.

If you don’t like the deal, I’m perfectly fine with that. I wasn’t sure about it myself, but I really don’t like your reasoning. Kapanen worth more than a second? Of course, that’s why I offered more. Lyon isn’t better than Sparks? I literally never even thought about comparing the two. We have 3 goalies in the AHL, I took the one with least upside and shipped him off to a team who had goalies with worse AHL numbers. Could have easily done a separate trade but I wanted to save some time. The part I 100% disagree with is Gudas. He isn’t overpaid at his current cap hit let alone with 1.5 million retained which was done simply because he Leafs need cap relief and if they aren’t getting any then what’s the point of this move. 20 points, not great but not horrible for a defensive d-man. A plus player on a bad team, lots of hits and blocks. But hey, those stats aren’t good enough to evaluate a player. Let’s look at the analytics. He’s great there too. No matter how you evaluate a hockey player, Gudas is a 2nd pair, right handed, defensive defenseman. Even though IMO you didn’t even mention the two biggest reasons to not make this deal from a Leafs standpoint, I respect your opinion on not wanting to do it. But at least know what you’re getting

Only in the minds of Flyers fans. Gudas is a bottom pair bruiser. The Leafs have no need for that. If they really do need that, they can sign Polak to a 1 million dollar deal and that is just as good as Gudas.

And also according to regular stats and advanced analytics which isn’t opinionated nor can I make up. But judging by this brief conversation I doubt you even paid attention to them or maybe don’t even know what they are. Can’t do anything about ignorance. If you want to put a guy like Polak in the same category as Gudas, who’s gonna stop you?

Oh I pay attention to them, but I also think they can easily be skewed to paint whatever picture someone wants to tell. Somethings that can be said about Gudas are these. He isn't a very strong skater, he doesn't play against top talent, has no offense to speak of. All of that points to a bottom pair guy. He isn't trash, he just isn't worth much since bottom pair defenceman aren't that hard to find.