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Habs Oilers Nurse Lucic and more I look forward to your kicks and ideas

Créé par: RoadRunner72
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2019
Publié: 6 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Assume Habs go after Jake Gardiner July 1 but fail to bring him to the dark side. Darnell Nurse intrigues me to solidify Montreal's left side defense. Lets keep the Nurse trade and the Lucic idea basically as separate transactions to evaluate proposed value more clearly.

There must be a price point where it makes sense for a team to take on the Lucic contract that works for both sides. In this scenario, Oilers retain some salary but clear $4M on their cap for each of the next 4 years to build around McDavid-Draisatl-Nuge-Klefbom-Bouchard-Larson core of players. They also keep their 1st round picks in 2019 and 2020 for purpose of building a winner in next 5 years. Habs get good futures in exchange for paying a big piece of Edmonton's mistake on Lucic. Lucic does not fit fast style of the Habs, but perheaps after a few years they flip him again and retain some more salary, or buy him out.

Habs draft at #22 in June 2019, take Thomas Harley, offensively gifted left D-man.

Guys like Romanov, Ylonen, Suzuki, Brook, Primeau and Harley are shown as an organizational depth chart and likely won't show up at NHL level until 2020-21 season
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
52 500 000 $
52 750 000 $
3900 000 $
31 100 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 200 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Harley, Thomas
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Nurse solidifies Montreal LD. Proven top 4 guy with some good offense and grit. Defensively not quite as sharp.
EDM
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
Détails additionnels:
Assume Juulsen's eye injury heals fully, he's a solid top 4 defensive D-man for Oilers going forward. Lekhonen proven good defensive top 6-9 forward with new contract.
2.
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Safin, Ostap
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Habs take on $16M worth of Lucic over 4 years, in return for decent LW/RW prospect and future picks
EDM
  1. Kulak, Brett
Détails additionnels:
Kulak helps to fill the gap on 2nd or 3rd pair Left D for Oilers with Nurse gone. And of course they gain some cap flexibility to make other moves to build around McDavid-Draisatl-RNH
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Could be going to any team - just moving a few roster spots for late draft picks
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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2020
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2021
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Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
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Logo de NYI
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3083 000 000 $81 385 475 $0 $3 665 000 $1 614 525 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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771 666 $771 666 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
G
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Harley, Thomas
925 000 $925 000 $
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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6 févr. 2019 à 21 h 27
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You need to add pieces to keep up with toronto and Tampa and Boston even so you sure you want lucic and his dead money. I mean he's really really not good
6 févr. 2019 à 21 h 53
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so we're retaining 33% of that contract AND paying a 1st and 2nd and a prospect? wow you might be on something strong. nobody needs to get rid of a player that badly. also you cant get nurse for that unless you added the 1st and 2nd rounders and a prospect
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6 févr. 2019 à 22 h 47
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That first oilers trade is brutal. Nurse is a 6'4" fast skating, hard hitting, defensively sound, offensively gifted top 4 dman who's on pace for 42 points this season. If you want him be prepared to give up something of value. I don't see the Oilers giving him up unless you give us a legit top line winger back. Gallagher at least, but even then, I'd rather have nurse, who's still an rfa after this contract. Just being honest. Nurse is just too good to give up unless we get a great return
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6 févr. 2019 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: mk458
That first oilers trade is brutal. Nurse is a 6'4" fast skating, hard hitting, defensively sound, offensively gifted top 4 dman who's on pace for 42 points this season. If you want him be prepared to give up something of value. I don't see the Oilers giving him up unless you give us a legit top line winger back. Gallagher at least, but even then, I'd rather have nurse, who's still an rfa after this contract. Just being honest. Nurse is just too good to give up unless we get a great return


Thanks for the honesty. You may be right, that he's too good to give up. But I don't think the value is all that far off. Maybe the 3rd rounder goes MTL to Edmonton instead. Essentially the Oilers get two young and relatively proven players for the price of one. They have a lot of gaps to fill with competent players, and I have no doubt Lekhonene and Juulsen are both very competent NHL players just a step down from Nurse's level.
6 févr. 2019 à 23 h 49
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You need to add pieces to keep up with toronto and Tampa and Boston even so you sure you want lucic and his dead money. I mean he's really really not good


Oh I know he's really really not good these days. I see him all the time where I live, and it's even worse when you're in the arena. But that's why there's a high cost attached to move him out. Lucic can still play a reasonable 3-4 line role and be useful, but he's just way overpaid for the type of player he is now.

I think Montreal can handle some relatively dead money if the price is right - they should not be trying to really compete with Toronto & Tampa in the next couple years, that's a waste of effort. Assuming guys like Tatar and Petry are moved out before they go UFA next year, the Habs shouldn't be hurting for cap space for a couple more years.

Because i'm showing 30 guys on the "depth chart" the cap hit shown is misleading. If you send the younger guys back to junior and AHL and get the roster down to 23, it's actually about $7M in cap space still available in 2019-20
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