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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 25
Sujet:
Thinking outside the house that is outside of the box
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>If we got Parayko and Thomas for marner I would call that a win... adding two firsts is quite gratuitous.
Also no way Montreal gives up Gallagher.</div></div>
Is that better for the STL trade?
I get the idea that MTL wouldn't want to trade Gally but they are really weak in the middle. Kadri helps fix that quite a bit I think. What would need to be added for Gallagher-Kadri deal to go through?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 13
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Yes, you should but some thought into it. Ottawa who were finishing out of the playoffs had already talked extension with Turris but he turned it down. Turris was being traded by TDL for sure. And as we seen it's been a bad deal for Nashville. Brodie is an important part of a 1st place team, you think it's the same. Leafs certainly don't know what their cap situation is 2019/20 and aren't committing to Brodie.</div></div>
Again. Put forth a suggestion. What would you want them to do?
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 4
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jiannuccilli</b></div><div>Yeah not saying Turris is bad he’s just overpaid. Not by a little either.
Anyways that makes more sense, glad you recognize how good Marner is lol
With the right deal involving Marner, I could see him getting parayko, Jones/werenski, literally any top defenseman. That’ll sound ridiculous to people, but a 95 point 21 year old winger could get you just about anyone.</div></div>
Trust me. I don't actually want him to leave I just hate the idea of paying three forward 11mil when the problem is clearly back end and we can't afford to fix anything.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 3
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>"Given an extension?" Why would the Leafs do that? Why Brodie do that? And really so what happens, The Flames tell Brodie "We have tentatively traded to Toronto, Now talk to them and try to work an extension. But if the Leafs and you can't come to an agreeement, hey you are always welcomed back to the Flames for one more year of you contract though we don't really want you on our team."
Most of these extension theories are really just covering up bad trades.</div></div>
The Three way trade between avs, nash and ottawa included Nashville figuring out an extension for turris before the trade happened. Though please, Put forth a suggestion on what you think the leafs should do.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 54
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jiannuccilli</b></div><div>Marner just scored 95 points at 21 years old and he’s not that great? HA
Marner and a bit more could get you almost any defenseman you want.
Wayne Gretzky got traded multiple times. Nashville traded their captain 3 years ago. Everybody is available if you offer enough. Marner is enough.</div></div>
I meant Larsson is not that great. I think Marner is amazing and borderline better then Matthews.
I'll edit this for Ellis. I grabbed Turris purely as a replacement for Kadri and he's also better then people give him credit for.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 52
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I don't mind Marner being traded but the Leafs are going to get the at least the equivalent of 4 first rounders to make it worth their while. This trade doesn't do it, especially since Turris is a cap damp.
That Calgary trade is bad for the Leafs. One year or Brodie for three years of Kadri and more.</div></div>
I think Brodie could easily be given an extension, heck even make that part of the deal.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 30
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Calgary needs to add for Kadri.
What about: Marner for 1st,2nd,Tolvanen,Ellis ??</div></div>
I would accept that without hesitation, I just don't think Nashville would as they traded away PK and it would make their right side much softer.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 23
Sujet:
Just a Theory with Marner being Traded
Sweet. You go tell me how Marner gets on defense? Ellis? After they just traded pk? Larsson? He's not that great. Everyone who says stetcher gets laughed and ridiculed at.
So please tell me which Defenseman should I have gone for that's even remotely available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 0
Sujet:
Dream come true
While I get the idea of the trade. if the leafs get offer sheeted they get 4 1st round picks. So why would they accept less then that? 2 first 2 seconds a 4th, smith and Trenin feels less then four first round picks. Toronto would rather be after a Defenseman (Ellis-Which I totally understand is a no-go) Or at least Arvidsson to replace Marner. I think Toronto would probably turn down anything that didn't include either of those.
Interesting idea though. If Toronto trades away Kadri I could see them being interested in Turris though potentially.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 17 h 26
Sujet:
Lets get offer sheeted
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JRob2911</b></div><div>larsson safin a second, a third</div></div>
So you're saying Edmonton traded Hall for larsson and then get Kadri for larsson, safin a 2nd and a third... So you traded hall, safin, 2nd and third for Kadri. Leafs probably take the deal but I just can't see Edmonton going for it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 17 h 25
Sujet:
Lets get offer sheeted
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady37</b></div><div>Panthers aren't trading Hub, and if they would, your offer just isn't good enough for them to even consider. Alot of contending teams would offer way better value.</div></div>
100% disagree with that and the leafs can easily offer more. they have currently 20mil in capspace Adding the what 8 mil from reimer and LTIR for Lou? That means they have 28mil to sign 10 players and 20+ will be going to Bob and Panarin.
Regardless this is merely just the idea of Marner getting offersheeted and using the four first round picks to pick up players that can replace him for cheaper. If you have better suggestions feel free to make them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
Lets get offer sheeted
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JRob2911</b></div><div>kadri to edm instead</div></div>
What does EDM offer for Kadri?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
Lets get offer sheeted
I don't think the leafs want Hoffman so it's huberdeau or they take their business elsewhere and then the panthers are back to finding a buyer elsewhere that offers a first pick swap + a first pick + a B+/A- prospect
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juin 2019 à 2 h 51
Sujet:
How far off is this Tor pit 3 way
Personally think Toronto can't afford Letang anyways and they would just rather get Brodie themselves.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2019 à 17 h 6
Sujet:
Dumpster dive for RHD and make Western Frienemies
Nylander should stay a winger, move Jankowski to center and just don't take Brodziak, goat is cheap and perfectly fine as a 4th line center, that way you can pay kappy over 3 like he's going to demand.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2019 à 15 h 14
Sujet:
Nyquist Varly Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Well let's see.
We have a 2c who is being paid 60% of his worth for the next 3 seasons.
What have the jackets got that is Trouba value?</div></div>
Sure I'm all in agreement, I'm literally asking you what would you want from CBJ to make it of interest? Savard + Jenner + pick? I personally would rather wait and see if Nashville signs Duchene and if not, try and pry ellis out of NSH
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2019 à 15 h 12
Sujet:
TRADES
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>I4evrblue</b></div><div>That Vancouver trade is an easy No from the Leafs</div></div>
Agreed, we should be wanting stetcher + 1st as start for getting rid of Nylander. Personally just don't get rid of him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2019 à 15 h 9
Sujet:
Nyquist Varly Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Um, no.
-The Leafs, easily</div></div>
I don't know about that, leafs would want Savard. What would make this acceptable or at least worth considering then?
I'm also a leafs fan so i'm just trying to figure it out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juin 2019 à 1 h 20
Sujet:
Outside the box
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>I didn't mention the cap savings?
It doesn't make sense to move Zaitsev and Marleau and not re-sign Kapanen and Johnsson. They have enough cap space right now for Marner. If they can move Marleau and Zaitsev the whole intention is to re-sign Kapanen and Johnsson, not make them a part of the deal to move those players. Just doesn't make sense for Toronto</div></div>
We don't have enough right off the bat to pay for marner as we just under 9 in cap space currently. Zaitsev wants out of Toronto, Our defense is in dire need of upgrading. If they keep Johnsson(who I do quite like) they can't get Ellis. I'd rather deal away one of them at that point. If you have a better suggestion besides trading away Marleau and Z and holding pat on the team as it is, I'm all ears but the current team needs fixing, specifically on the back end.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2019 à 23 h 3
Sujet:
Outside the box
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Stecher's not that good to pay Zaitsev, Johnsson and a pick. Stecher is good at generating offence, but his defensive game is average at best. For that price, it's much more worth it to keep Zaitsev and Johnsson</div></div>
Actually it's a lot of cap savings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2019 à 19 h 27
Sujet:
Feedback
I think the leafs trade is reasonable, but I think the leafs might want a little more that 3rd might need to be a 2nd.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2019 à 19 h 0
Sujet:
Never gunna happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JamesJN16</b></div><div>I get the desire for Stetcher, but I don't see Vancouver parting with him anytime soon. Marleau for cap space is a given I think trading with Anaheim is in our interest since there's a good working relationship there.
Florida trade makes sense.
For Kadri, I genuinely think that there is no other contract in the market where we have what would be a 1C on terrible teams with no centre depth to a 2C on most teams with a top line centre.
I understand the sentiment behind trading Kadri because of his poor playoff performance, lowered point totals this season and being dropped down the depth chart. If we trade Kadri, I think the only feasible trade must be at least a Top2/4 RHD with possibly a sweetener on either side depending on who's being offered.</div></div>
I edited to give us eaves instead.
Well Kadri getting Barrie meets those requirements. I'm just asking who should we go get as a number 3 center then?
I just see Kadri as a piece that needs to start over somewhere new. I don't know what good #3 centers are out there. I'll look around to see if we can find someone else while waiting for a reply
Vancouver is going all in this offseason so to me this says "Hey we might be doing stupid ****" so I'm going to keep trying to see what options work for stetcher, because he fits our needs near perfectly, especially after this season both sandin/liljegrin are going to come up from the marlies to anchor the bottom pairing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2019 à 18 h 45
Sujet:
Never gunna happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JamesJN16</b></div><div>I don't think Stetcher gets moved from Vancouver. Hossa deal isn't all that great unless he is confirmed to be LTIR, then if thats the case, why not deal with Eaves on Ducks?
We keep Naz unless the return is immaculate. Jankowski is in almost every way a downgrade from Naz, except cap space.
In principle I am okay with Johnsson leaving, but the return is too weak.
King Reimer returning would be nice. The deal looks good on the Toronto side of things. Question is whether or not Florida will want to play ball with Sparks. Although they do have Luongo and Montambeault.</div></div>
I don't know about stetcher, i just want him. I don't care what we do with marleau if it's for hossa or eaves, it's just us getting rid of 6.25 cap space.
Florida is trying to get bob + panarin, and it sounds like Luongo might just go on LTIR, and they need cap savings for those two. They could easily just bury sparks without a caphit either.
I think Jankowski is not as bad as people think he is, He is a pk-ing center, very cheap. Who would you rather get instead to replace Kadri?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2019 à 17 h 50
Sujet:
Give feedback
I think it's not realistic. It doesn't make sense for toronto on any level. It's just too different in class. You would need to add a good bit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2019 à 0 h 34
Sujet:
Give feedback
Kappi has 54 points in 133 games played of which have come from the powerplay
Kappi kills penalty's and is a top 6 player.
Goodrow has 47 in 206 games played.
Goodrow had 76pim's and is not a top 6 player nor does he play the powerplay.
See how evaluation works? Adding a third round pick doesn't make things equal. Any pick after the second round is usually just chucking things on the wall and hoping something sticks.
Unfortunately the don't really see anyone of interest to us from the Sharks that fits their needs outside of Timo Meier but the sharks hang up the phone there and the leafs refuse pretty much everything else.
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