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Forum: Armchair-GM20 janv. 2019 à 17 h 59

Sujet: Trade Vesa WPG BUF Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>I'm a bit of an @$$hole sometimes... Lol
Well the guys who wait it out and screw the teams around who drafted them irritate me, that's what Hayes and Vesey did. I don't think that should be allowed.</div></div>

Good on you lol.
I do think they should be allowed to do that. Teams have so much control over their players, we shouldn't frown upon players exercising CBA rights. If a player wasn't allowed to do that, he would be forced to play for a team where he doesn't want to go until he turns 27. I think that's too extreme.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 janv. 2019 à 15 h 0

Sujet: Trade Vesa WPG BUF Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Sorry I just don't see him being a good fit for the Jets at all. I love trades and deadline day but would rather the Jets stay away from pricey rentals.</div></div>

That is understandable. Why did you call him a clown though?

Forum: Armchair-GM20 janv. 2019 à 13 h 40

Sujet: Trade Vesa WPG BUF Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>For one, everything that's happened with Hayes from since he was drafted says to me he's a clown who I wouldn't want anywhere near a contending team looking at a deep playoff run. I hope the Jets stay far away from him and his ego.
Secondly, if they feel they need another center(I'm not convinced that the Jets do)and they're willing to trade Vesalainen it better be for someone with term like Zibenejad.</div></div>

What are you talking about? Hayes is the nicest guy ever.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 janv. 2019 à 20 h 25

Sujet: Sell EDM WPG PIT SJS

You must have gotten tired of winning

Forum: Armchair-GM14 janv. 2019 à 13 h 16

Sujet: Krieder and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>isn't Heponiemi a panthers prospect?

problem is the trade listed doesn't fit the rangers rebuild. Need a package of young talent/1st rounders/etc

I would take dougie for kreider in a heartbeat. But panthers would not do that</div></div>

Yes, he is. My bad. I got them mixed up. Adam Fox would be acceptable, or Kuokkanen and something else.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. 2019 à 20 h 31

Sujet: Krieder and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hurricanes73</b></div><div>Dougie and not tvr</div></div>

How about just Heponiemi, a 1st and a future 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM9 janv. 2019 à 5 h 50

Sujet: Make offers mostly everyone is available

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Brassard, one of either Maatta or Oleksiak and a 1st for Zibanejad with $2 million retained.

That's a one time take it or leave it deal.

Honestly I don't know why you would trade him to begin with since he's only 25 but since you are.</div></div>

No thanks, Brassard has been bad this season, and I don't think Maatta or Oleksiak should be anything more than a n5 D in a good team. I think trading Zib should be considered because when we become good, he'll be a 28YO in an expiring deal. If you can yield a great return (multiple picks and good prospects), you trade him. You keep him otherwise.

Forum: Armchair-GM9 janv. 2019 à 5 h 47

Sujet: Make offers mostly everyone is available

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sidstick87</b></div><div>Ive been saying for the last 3 yrs that Kreider would be a near perfect wing for Sid .... The way he plays that north / south speed game with some bite... my god when i seen Kreider on the Athletics trade bait list, I think i day dreamed for about 10 min thinking about that Kreider- Sid - Guentzel line , lol.
How about LD- Oleksiak and 1st rdr for Kreider w/ $1m retained</div></div>

Not enough... You've been competent for so long that you don't have great prospects, but if I'm NYR I would ask for one of Hallander or Addison, a 2019 1st, and another pick (a 2nd? a future conditional 1st?).

Forum: Armchair-GM8 janv. 2019 à 20 h 39

Sujet: Make offers mostly everyone is available

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kopiino</b></div><div>Kreider for a 1st + B+/A- prospect
Vesey for a 3rd or late 2nd
Skjei for a 2nd + B prospect</div></div>

Without knowing the specific prospects involved, I'd take your offers on Kreider and Vesey, but I would want at least a 1st for Skjei.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2018 à 15 h 3

Sujet: We suck but we could suck less

Let's try: Ottawa adds Alex Formenton, Drake Batherson and a 2020 1st. That's what it takes for NYR to consider taking on Ceci's cap hit AND parting with Kreider in the same trade, I think.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2018 à 14 h 53

Sujet: Trades w BOS DAL NSH VGK CAR CGY

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastMode5515</b></div><div>Not even consider it. That’s our future 1/2C and probably 1/2LD. Along with a 1st in the deepest draft since 2015? They still give an easy no and we wouldn’t be able to keep it under the cap anyway.</div></div>

I understand that the return is too much, but aren't you overvaluing Studnicka? He's not even a guarantee to make it in the NHL, never mind being a lock to become a top 6 center

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2018 à 7 h 56

Sujet: ending the drought next year- NYR PIT TOR COL CBJ

While value-wise, the NYR trade is pretty even, I don't think the Rangers say yes. Right now there is no pressure to be good, and cap room is not a need. If NYR do trade Zibanejad, it will be for a combination of good young players and picks, not to get rid of Staal's contract.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2018 à 7 h 52

Sujet: Add another winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>And then lose him going into the year when they’re hoping to be competitive for nothing? Seems smart.</div></div>

Cogliano has no value to NYR. If they trade Kreids as a rental in 2020, they can easily get a 1st round pick (and probably something more). There is no reason to trade him now if the return isn't great, never mind for the package you offered.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2018 à 14 h 13

Sujet: Realistic Taresenko Trade

This would be so bad for NYR

Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2018 à 14 h 10

Sujet: Add another winger

He's got 1.5 years left on his contract. Unless an offer of a 1st, a 2nd, and a good prospect comes along, NYR hold on to him.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 déc. 2018 à 18 h 13

Sujet: Cernak gettin Boqvist

Tampa Bay trade is horrible for the Rangers, and I don't like trading Buchnevich and two other capable roster players for a prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 déc. 2018 à 12 h 36

Sujet: rangers

You are grossly overestimating the value of these players you traded.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 déc. 2018 à 6 h 54

Sujet: Hayes Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>LMAO at the Avs giving you Makar. Possible generational attacking D with the smarts to play well in his own end.

We're on planet earth rather than Fuller's!</div></div>

I was talking about the Boston and Winnipeg trades. It is not likely that Colorado will give up Makar.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 déc. 2018 à 6 h 19

Sujet: Hayes Trades

Hayes is almost a point per game 26YO center, and he is defensively responsible. You can ask for more than a first round pick. I don't know what the other people who replied to this post are on.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 déc. 2018 à 7 h 2

Sujet: Deadline CGY COL EDM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>InTreWeTrust</b></div><div>That is exactly why you are going to see teams start to shy away from giving up high round picks / prospects for rentals at the TDL. That CGY package is the same as we gave for Hamonic for a top 4 D under a team greindly contract - no way Tre goves up a package like that for a rental.</div></div>

I don't think these trades are comparable. It was done in the offseason and CGY sent an unprotected first, well knowing they might not make the playoffs. In the trade I proposed there's only one second, and the picks will be in the 25-31 range of each round, not 12.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 déc. 2018 à 20 h 30

Sujet: Deadline CGY COL EDM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>smokewiseganja</b></div><div>pretty even on every trade, but I doubt the oilers take on another top 6 d man since they already have 4 extras on their team[/quotequote=BDAvs;663437]Two months of Zuc for a 1st round pick? Think again.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Hard pass from the Avs.</div></div>

You have one of the best records in the league and very possibly you will get far in the playoffs. Whether it is Zucc or not, you should prepare yourselves for the deadline trade that will see a veteran rental join your team in exchange for valuable futures. Seeing what deadline deals for players of Zucc's calibre fetch, I don't think the return is unrealistic at all.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 nov. 2018 à 16 h 58

Sujet: Good bye vets ANA EDM PIT TOR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTF</b></div><div>he aint worth a first to pittsburgh. what does he add to the team? hallander is our best forward prospect, it would be nice to hold on to him and not give him up for kevin frigggen hayes</div></div>

Pittsburgh's third line center is DEREK GRANT (right now).

Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2018 à 17 h 4

Sujet: Good bye vets ANA EDM PIT TOR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aspina25</b></div><div>Not put in a position to succeed?? Last year he played over 300 minutes with one of Mcdavid or Draisaitl. I'd consider that position to succeed.</div></div>

That's 20 games. A quarter of the season. He spent more time on the 4th line. And lest we forget, 28 points in the NHL as a 19y/o is perfectly decent production. (And his underlying stats are very good).

Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2018 à 15 h 5

Sujet: Good bye vets ANA EDM PIT TOR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aspina25</b></div><div>Trading for someone under the reasoning "it'll be worth it if he becomes a 70+ point player" is idiotic, especially if he's a player that doesn't even have 30 career points in well over a full seaon's worth of games.</div></div>

You're right. What I meant to say is: he hasn't been put in a situation where he could succeed. Given that he has all the right tools and he's 20; the prospect of him becoming a 70+ point player is still realistic. I think that a chance at such a player (whatever it may be; 30%? 50%?) + his value if he doesn't reach his ceiling; is more valuable (to NYR) than a bona fide top 6 winger who is already 27 and only has one more year under team control.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2018 à 12 h 30

Sujet: Good bye vets ANA EDM PIT TOR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>GMJR "You have the wrong number"</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTF</b></div><div>pitt says no thank you</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Outlandish_Trades</b></div><div>Pittsburgh could use Hayes, but Rangers would probably have to include Namestnikov and a 3rd rounder to get that 1st round pick along with Hallander</div></div>

Can we all agree that Hayes is worth more than a late 1st? And that Hallander has middle six potential at best? Damn.

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