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Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 20 h 51

Sujet: Final 2025

Chicago declines

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 5 h 45

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>You absolutely don’t need to pay to get rid of Tavares, let alone pay a first</div></div>

If you want us to pay his $7M bonus, which this proposal seems to suggest because the pick would happen before bonuses are paid out, then yes, TOR will have to pay us to take his contract. The only way TOR gets anything for Tavares is, first, obviously he needs to be willing to waive, and second, TOR is willing to retain 50%, which would defeat the purpose of moving him in the first place.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 45

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>odyssey</b></div><div>JT has value. hes a 70-80 point player and a great face off man. wtf is your thought process? giving away a first FOR ONE YEAR? jesus dude</div></div>

It’s not like they haven’t done it before… Marleau says howdy!

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 21

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>odyssey</b></div><div>played a great chunk of the year injured (thats an eye test, usually he will go into board battles and not give up until his team has a good chance at getting a puck out, he hasnt done it this year, nor has he been hitting as much) , i dont want to trade him anyways, nor do i think he would waive to go anywhere</div></div>

He's the new version of Toews but with a worse cap hit; he's got negative value on the open market, and to your point, he won't waive so none of this matters

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 18

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>Absolutely so not, yeah he makes about 2-3 million too much, but he had 65 points on what was a down year. If someone wants him they can pay for retention.

The most likely scenario is that the leafs don’t trade their captain away and he returns. If Tavares was completely useless and didn’t produce then sure trade away a valuable asset, but it’s only one year, and I think they learned from their Marleau mistake</div></div>

A down year on a stacked team and getting 1 year older? 65 points is not $2m to $3 too much against the cap, try like $5M too much. If you think he's going to improve with ago on a bad team, I've got oceanfront property to sell you in Arizona

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 16

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>odyssey</b></div><div>JT has value. hes a 70-80 point player and a great face off man. wtf is your thought process? giving away a first FOR ONE YEAR? jesus dude</div></div>

but he's a 65 point player on a stacked team as indicated by this past season and another year older he's not getting any better

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 16

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>there's a pretty wide gulf between getting a fantastic return for him and having to give up a 1st to move him. A Tavares trade would be somewhere in the middle and there would probably be a not great contract returning to balance it out, say (not saying anyone does this, just using the contract vs on ice value as an example) the Foligno contract for Chicago.</div></div>

It's a late 1st and Foligno was nowhere near the negative cap value. He has roughly a negative cap value of $5M and history says a late 1st isn't far off as the cost to dump $5M of cap; maybe a late 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 21 h 42

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>You absolutely don’t need to pay to get rid of Tavares, let alone pay a first</div></div>

LMAO yes you do. Nobody is taking on JT at a $11M cap hit for 65 points....his cap hit is WAY inflated for what he provides. If he was $5M to $7M he's moveable without paying, but at $4M to $6M over market value, 1000% Toronto has to pay to move him and only a very few teams can fit $11M in cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 21 h 41

Sujet: If jt waives

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>tavares wont wave for chicago, and even if he did he wouldnt cost anything like that to move.
and that marner trade is pretty bad too</div></div>

It will cost to move his $11M cap hit, and it's not going to be much cheaper. 65 points doesn't justify a $11M cap hit and very few teams have that kind of cap space

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 22 h 47

Sujet: 32TP

Absolutely no way Chicago is retaining for 3 years and only getting a 2nd for their troubles.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 22 h 39

Sujet: 32TP

Retaining 3mil cap, 9 million total for a 2nd round pick is not good business

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 0 h 7

Sujet: Marner to Chicago

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Hawks laugh and hang up the phone...they are rebuilding, 1 year of Marner does nothing for them unless they plan to retain 50% and trade him before the TDL and good luck getting a better return than Toronto is in your idea of a trade</div></div>

Hawks wouldn’t get anywhere near that type of return at the deadline with retention.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 31

Sujet: Marner to Chicago

Chicago and Calgary both decline.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 23 h 22

Sujet: Marner to Chicago

Hawks laugh and hang up the phone...they are rebuilding, 1 year of Marner does nothing for them unless they plan to retain 50% and trade him before the TDL and good luck getting a better return than Toronto is in your idea of a trade

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 5 h 2

Sujet: is it possible

I don't see CHI having interest in Bastian. But I guess it's possible.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 7 h 34

Sujet: Realistic

There's nothing realistic about that trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 5 h 3

Sujet: Realistic

Neither of those players are worth a 2nd to CHI.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 3 h 50

Sujet: Realistic

Is today Opposite Day?

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 10 h 55

Sujet: Makes a ton of sense

I think the Canes will find room for Necas. Their defense will drop one or two of Skjei/Pesce/Chatfield. They have Morrow and Nikishin who are both very good D prospects.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 10 h 22

Sujet: Makes a ton of sense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JK74</b></div><div>I would assume the premise behind this offer is that a) you can't afford to extend him and b) this trade offers you a chance to restock the cupboard with a few solid picks and a swiss army knife in Donato. If I were Carolina I'd counter with replacing Donato with Dickinson half retained but I think Chicago wouldn't bite at that. Just my $.02 though.</div></div>

A and B are correct on top of point C of Necas being a bad fit for their super defensive minded system where they ask a top of the forwards and him wanting out because of it

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 10 h 21

Sujet: Makes a ton of sense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Why does this make sense for the canes? We aren’t rebuilding</div></div>

Flip the picks, it's not like a top 20 1st isn't liquid

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 10 h 20

Sujet: Makes a ton of sense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Why does this make sense for the canes? We aren’t rebuilding</div></div>

I would assume the premise behind this offer is that a) you can't afford to extend him and b) this trade offers you a chance to restock the cupboard with a few solid picks and a swiss army knife in Donato. If I were Carolina I'd counter with replacing Donato with Dickinson half retained but I think Chicago wouldn't bite at that. Just my $.02 though.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 10 h 27

Sujet: Easy money

Chicago wouldn't have interest in Dvorak without a sweetener. There's no spot for him in the bottom six.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 7 h 21

Sujet: Craigs List

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Still overvaluing Marner, are we?

Classic Leafs fan logic. “Get this guy with a NTC off of my team right now, but give me everything for him.”</div></div>

Right? Do they even hear themselves? Not to mention he is a pending UFA that could be signed next summer without giving up anything. Why on earth would he agree to an extension if he is already being asked to waive his NMC? I would say "pick one. I will either sign an extension or waive my NMC, but not both."

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 6 h 45

Sujet: Craigs List

Still overvaluing Marner, are we?

Classic Leafs fan logic. “Get this guy with a NTC off of my team right now, but give me everything for him.”

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