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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals15 févr. 2023 à 17 h 13
Sujet: 3 way trade Good for every team
If I’m Arizona, I say no. Only because I feel you haven’t given the expected return for these guys. This looks like a lowball offer that would get the trade talks flowing. For Vejmelka I would expect a protected 1st Round Pick or a goalie prospect (Dustin Wolf? Mads Sogaard?) and a future 2nd/3rd Round Pick. If you want me to take on a year of Zaitsev at $4.5M with no retention that is at the bare minimum another 1st round pick. Then for Chychurn, you're looking at another 1st and some prospects (preferably 2 B or 1 A tier). The guys you added, Branny and Soko, don’t exactly fit the needs of a rebuilding team. In Arizona’s case, they would be a bit too old (24 and 23 next season).

Also, I know this trade should be all sens, but surely the Flames will move something else whether it’s a 4-7th Round Pick or a young prospect. It seems odd to think Ottawa does all the work and Calgary just sits back and (technically) gets Chychurn 1-for-1.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals2 févr. 2023 à 19 h 58
Sujet: Maybe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dutchies</b></div><div>Dude............no, no, no, no, no...........
If you get a chance to bring on a stud like Andersson, you do it. He'd automatically be the best dman on the team, at a stellar cap hit. That being said, CAL hangs up the phone on this deal.</div></div>

I know Andersson is a great defenseman, but he isn't a good fit with Ottawa's cap situation. If they did this the sens would be cap-strapped. Pinto and ADB need deals, combined you're looking at about $12M+. That would leave them with ~$3M in cap space (assuming Motte, Talbot, Zaitsev, Holden, and Brannstrom all get moved or don't get extended between now and the offseason). It doesn't make sense to bring on more cap to fix a problem that could be resolved internally.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals2 févr. 2023 à 18 h 8
Sujet: Pierre Dorions Last Stand Mark Stone replacement for Vegas Ottawa gets a DG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div><strong>OTTAWA</strong>
-The Senators cannot re-sign Debrincat long term due to the salary cap.
-They need a #3 D and a cost controlled 1A/1B type goalie to play with Forsberg.
-They need to dump Zaitsev.
-They use the Debrincat/Talbot trades to subsidize the cost of acquiring those two pieces.
-One of Thompson or JBD has to be involved in the trade due to waiver status next season.
-Both pieces the Senators get are cost controlled at a good cap hit.

<strong>VEGAS</strong>
-Stone is going on LTIR after back surgery.
-Vegas has been tied to Talbot since they need help in net.
-Debrincat gives Vegas flexibility. He can either be a rental for the playoffs. In which case, they can turn around and flip his rights at the draft to recoup the 1st round pick they gave up.
-If it turns out that Stone is still out next season, they can sign Debrincat to a 1 year deal as Stone’s short term replacement.

<strong>ARIZONA</strong>
-The Coyotes get two 1sts (both top 10 protected), two 2nds, and a young bottom pairing defender for Chychrun, and Vejmelka. They take Zaitsev as part of the trade.
-A side benefit is that this certainly helps the tank of the Coyotes.</div></div>

Wait you're not joking, you actually made this to be a serious trade?

Ottawa can easily sign ADB to a 3-8-year deal for $9M+ as he's worth, they will have cap flexibility as long as they trade Zaitsev and a high-round pick for FC. The cap is expected to go up $10M in the next 3 seasons. Even If they don't get him on a max term right away, they have the flexibility and control over him to get a bridge deal until the spike in the cap and then sign him to the biggest deal in franchise history. Ottawa still has 1 year of RFA on him, there's no reason to make any sort of moves with him before new ownership this summer. Let him have a full season in Ottawa before making such a big trade.

You have Ottawa trading an arm, a leg, a kidney, a few toes, and an ear for Chychurn and Vejmelka. Forsberg can be the sens starter next season while they sign a backup UFA goalie on a 1-year deal. There are still Leevi Merilainen and Mads Sogaard coming up the pipeline that can be the tandem of the future as your 1A/1B.

Sens are also giving up an RHD prospect for another LHD which they have an abundance of (Kleven, Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom...). Arizona trade rumors have said they want a package with Pinto or Greig which neither are here. This is just a nonsensical trade that benefits no one but the Arizona Coyotes.

I do agree however Talbot to Vegas would be a good fit, but Ottawa would more than likely get Laurent Brossoit and a mid-round pick
Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 51
Sujet: Wacky Offseason
This is atrocious, this is just setting Ottawa up for another disappointing season where they don't make a push for the playoffs but also don't give themselves a chance at a Top prospect.

To start Brannstrom is worth more than a 4th. His points aren't showing just how big of a stride he's improved defensively this season as a 3rd pairing. He's been paired with guys like Holden and Zaitsev and has shown more confidence than when he played with Chabot last season.

Why are they trading Joseph after just one season? When he played with Motte and Pinto that was one of the more productive lines. Sure they are likely losing Motte but a guy like Ridly Greig can easily get bumped to the 3rd line and make that line dangerous.

A lot of the Sens' issues can be solved internally except goaltending which was never really addressed. Sogaard looks like he will be a solid 1B goaltender but he still needs 1 more season of AHL development. I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't feel overly confident having my backup goalie on a potential wildcard team be a rookie whose numbers regressed in the AHL. It makes more sense for Ottawa to spend the money you used for Walman and Engvall on a 1-year deal for a veteran goalie (like Raanta or Khudobin).

Lastly, the sens aren't going to be a Cap team until Pinto, Sanderson, and Greig are locked up. Spending $4.9M on Pinto after 1 good season is way too risky, a 2-3 year bridge deal around the $3.25M-$3.75M range makes sense for both sides. Pinto can get paid if the cap increases in 3 years as expected. Also, why aren't they getting any picks in this year's draft???
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals7 janv. 2023 à 16 h 3
Sujet: Florida breaks at the deadline gives up an arm and a leg for one year of Toews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JDCapfriendly4life</b></div><div>I can see this, but Florida doesn’t want to give up Duclair unless they absolutely have to. So unless in this trade Duclair absolutely has to be in it, Florida would probably remove him from the deal and add something else</div></div>

That's a good point! But I also don't see how Florida lets Montreal walk away with 2 top 10 picks in this monster draft. They will never be able to live that down, this will be a 2020 San Jose situation all over again. Florida should be doing everything in their power to ensure they don't let this happen. Imagine 10 years from now saying Connor Bedard was traded for ****ing Ben Chariot. The memes would never leave that team. Even if Montreal ended up with the 20-24th pick in the draft, there are still a few gems they can get. Florida also likes to do these dumb trades that ruin their future and forces them to be in win-now mode.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals7 janv. 2023 à 15 h 54
Sujet: Seattle commits to a playoff push at the deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Verbeek could have claimed Tolvanen if he wanted to do he had no value

Name value I think we still get a 1st for Klingberg</div></div>

I 100% agree that Verbeek would have claimed him if they wanted him a month ago, however, this is a fictional scenario where between now and the trade deadline I can see Tolvanen impressing the likes of ANA, CBJ, or another rebuilder which will allow SEA to dump him for a veteran player to help push for a playoff berth. His small sample size with SEA looks promising, 3p in 3gp. He reminds me of Anthony Duclair, who needs to have a strong top 6 role and play significant PP minutes to be affected on a team. Seattle can offer him that if he stays long-term, but he still has value around the league.

And Klingberg has been a shell of his old self. If he keeps up his current play I can't see him going for more than a 3rd if there was no salary retention. He would be a nice addition to SEA, providing some playoff experience and a veteran presence as long as they can get the 2017-21 Klingberg and not continue his 2021-23 Klingberg.